Truck Enthusiasts

[bloocrab]

I need some opinions...



Basically..<<$$$>> it's a tight race -


...I've owned both Toyotas & Nissans, but not trucks -


....any pluss' or minuss' I should be aware of ???

Thanks~

[Striper SniperX]

Nissan Trucks have the nice Truck/suv like SuperCharged
X-tera,Not really many Pickup styles

But i think Toyota Tunda (even Tacoma) Is a better truck ..
I love Cars N trucks,( I know my stuff a lil' bit)

Heres a note for ya .,. All Toyota Trucks sold from 1986up , 92% are still registered an on the road,, Nissan is Pretty new in this area,, not sure 'bout 'em...


Check Out This Link..

http://www.carsdirect.com/research/n..._guides/trucks


On a Different Note:
if ya want a real Truck, (fast,powerfull,and good-lookin,,Concider a Dodge Ram, Seriously lil' more $$ but will last you over twice as long ---But that's just coming from a kid who seen toyotas an Nissans have to get pulled out of oakland beach ramp by dodge rams )

Good Luck!

[Tattoo]

Bloo,

110% Happy with the Yota. Had american since day one and hate to say it but the Japs have this car thing nailed. Truck is great, cheap on gas, lots of power for a 4 cylinder, and repair parts are cheap. I haven't had to fix anything on it as of yet, but I looked into how much parts are that need replacement before I bought it. (rotors, drums, radiator etc etc).

One thing I would have bought is the xtra cab model. It gets abit tight in the cab with all the fishing gear on moving from spot to spot - as you know.

Oh and the Yotas hold there resale value better than the Nissan. I could sell my Yota now for what I payed for it, and its a 97.

[Clammer]

Bloo Toyota The only way to go
I,ve had four and they have all been great
oil changes & tires is about it== brakes
the 85 the body rotted , and a couple of clutches, but that was my fault of towing a boat too big for the 4 cyl/////////
I don,t even look at others /when its time I go get one
If I went back to towing alot /then I would consider the tundra,but at the time the dollars didn,t add up
I now have a 2000 tacoma 6cyl ,auto--==to date just grease & oil and I drive hard & its great on the beach !!!!!!

Good luck////////////////

[Mr. Sandman]

My vote is for the toyota. reliable and great reasale. Those are light duty vehicles ...don't get in an accident or tow much of a boat.

[JohnR]

Having worked for both, I would say the Toyota. Just a little more solid than the Nissan and with a slightly better resale (costs a couple more up front though).

First - determine what you hope & plan to do a couple years down the road - like towing a boat.

Also determine if the little truck is big enough for you. I had a Toy V-6 5spd in the late 80's and it was a great truck. However, it was only half the truck that my 98 F-150 was...

[MountainBreeze]

I owned a Tacoma 5 years ago - but had to trade it in when I got married as wife can't drive a std. Got a Subaru Outback - which has been a GREAT car (knock on wood) but... I really miss that truck!

I hope to trade in the Baru' next year and get a truck. The only decision, in my eyes, is to get the Tacoma or the Tundra!?!?!?

Good luck,
Rob

[Krispy]

I went thru this last year, and ended up getting the Frontier. I am very happy w/ it. It has the same reliability as the Toys, but youll spend some 3-5k more for their rep. Quality is = in my opinion. Brother-in-law has the 4dr 2002 supercharged version, and it rocks!
Go test drive em...

[StarsnStripers]

dodge ram rules!!!!

[Krispy]

You dont drive

[bloocrab]

Krispy...

On a sad note, I did drive a Frontier <<Supercharged>> too!! It did run Great!!!...however, when we got back to the lot......


The engine was making a loud whining noise.. ...the salesman was a bit ... speechless!! I had just told him that I wanted to drive his Nissan over to the Toyota lot to compare appearances...and he was excited about it...........until we heard the engine noise...

I'm not holding that against Nissans, I know these things sometimes happen...I'm just wondering if it was a sign from God...telling me His opinion...

John, as far as boat towing...I don't plan on owning something too big....too soon ...I still got that 24' hole in Wesport that I've been using as a piggy bank...and I ain't towing her anywhere till she's fixed!!!

I'm definately going with a V6 - <<V8 drinks too much>>

I'm a little stuck on the Nissan look ...but the Toyota keeps whispering to me while I'm asleep...

thanks for the replys gang...keep em' coming....I'm still not sure

[Jenn]

...but the Toyota keeps whispering to me while I'm asleep...

110% Happy with the Yota. Had american since day one and hate to say it but the Japs have this car thing nailed. Truck is great, cheap on gas, lots of power for a 4 cylinder, and repair parts are cheap. I haven't had to fix anything on it as of yet,

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if ya want a real Truck, (fast,powerfull,and good-lookin,,Concider a Dodge Ram, Seriously lil' more $$ but will last you over twice as long ---But that's just coming from a kid who seen toyotas an Nissans have to get pulled out of oakland beach ramp by dodge rams )

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BLOO>>>>translation of the pic.....means Toyota VERY SEXY (V.S) =over=nissan

[Striper SniperX]

jenn?

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if ya want a real Truck, (fast,powerfull,and good-lookin,,Concider a Dodge Ram, Seriously lil' more $$ but will last you over twice as long ---But that's just coming from a kid who seen toyotas an Nissans have to get pulled out of oakland beach ramp by dodge rams )
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What was that about ? Must of been a mistake

HEY its the truth!

If Ya Can't Dodge It,,, Ram It! V8 Magnum Power-
Can anyone say "vroom-vroom" ??

Jenn, i have seen Toyotas go in (under) trying 2 pull 23'ers out of the water! ,, and Dodge Rams and Chevy where there to pull the out!
(i also am fond of Chevy Silverados,,but dodge ram will always be my first and best choice!)

But as i FIRST said,, toyota is a better truck then nissan,, not only is it known better,,but it's proven they last longer, not sure how they do pulling boats (but i've seen new ones that aren't very good at it )

Bloo, Good Luck with your truck Hunt,,, hope you find what fits you and works out best for you,, if you like the toyota, or the Nissan , GO with it! Look around, Compare, and DRIVE,, if you drive the truck on the beach alot when surf casting,, go to a car lot near a beach and take it over there!
Not Sure if they make a 4x4, but that would be the best bet not only for Boat Towing,
but Light trucks have really "no-weight" in the back and tend to not do well in ice/snow (we owned a 93 Chevy S-10 pickup before the Ram,,and they shift around alot) also, if ya get your back tires spun in the sand on a beach, unless ya have 4x4 most of the time you have to wait till another truck comes around!
,But don't listen to me if ya don't want,, but i have seen alot of trucks do stuff like that...Go with a heavier truck, if ya plan to pull that 24' out of the water! unless it's a low ramp,, on oakie beach ramp is pretty steep at lowtide,, be carefull an pull S-L-O-W!

Hope that Link Helped out,, that was the Toyota vs. Nissan from CarNDriver.com.

Good Luck!

[Striper SniperX]

Krispy

Originally posted by Krispy
You dont drive

You don't need to drive to know quality
(that looks painfull!, why would ya want to do that? j/k)

have a good one!

[mrmacey]

you can have this at the right price its awsome but cant see getting it all fishy and salt covered has everything you need ive asked onstar for RI hot fishing spots she laughed said im from south carolinia i can tell you spots around here!!!!!

[Mr. Sandman]

mrmacey, Thats funny, I asked my onstar gal .." where are the big stripers feeding on the vineyard?" her respose was uh..I really don't know I am up here in Ottawa.
Also I asked her if she could remotely open the squibnocket gate near Jackie O's house so I could take my vehicle to a good surf spot...no luck there either.
She beeped my horn and flashed my lights though.

[redcrbbr]

She beeped my horn and flashed my lights though.

sorry i must have a dirty mind

[Jenn]

SSX...I dont want to sound nasty or anything.....but I question how you can compare $$ on a V8 ram to a V6 yota??? And as for lasting twice as long??? I seriously beg to differ....I know a lot of people who have toyotas and dodges and the toyota owners are FAR happier with their vehicles and drive them many more miles with far fewer problems to fix......maybe I live in a cocoon of coincidence......but I doubt it.....

I will agree that you might not want to tow a 27 foot camper or something like that with them....but then again thats not what the are built for.....for what we tow....our toyota is all we need!!! and let me tell you it goes like a ba@&%*rd in the sand!!!! I have driven quite a variety of vehicles in the sand and the 4 runner is...in my opinion the best yet!!

.....well I could keep beating the issue to death....so I guess to each his (or her) own......but for me (and my hubby) we will stand by out toyota !!!

[bloocrab]

I've also heard that the Dodge's engines tend to Slip ....

NO pun intended, Bruce......

Don't get me wrong, I love the Dodge look, BIG - MEAN...and Baaaaad lookin.....but looks ain't everything....just look at me

I want reliability - dependability - and QUALITY1 overall...looks like I'm leaning towards the Toyota now..

[JohnR]

You don't need to drive to know quality

No, you're right, you don't need to drive to know quality, however, you do need to drive (and usually for several years in various vehicles) to know quality in vehicles. Do you know what a HEMI is?
How do you qualify your ability to jusdge quality trucks? I can understand that if pops says that his 2003 Ram is his best truck ever but that's the only way I can see it. Even if he had a 2002 older style, that truck is lower in quality and longer in the tooth than either the Ford or the Chevy. Now Dodge's new 4.7 MagnumForceFeedbackCaddilacGive-A-Dog-a-Bone motor is probably all nice - but is it proven? Err, nope - that's a new motor. And if it's twice as good as their last major transaxle release of the early 90s, that means only 25% of them will crap out on ya...

So not trying to crunch stones on ya but I think there are a few people slightly more automotively inclined than you (even if I wussed out on changing my clutch on the Nissan today).


Bloo - I'm still a fan of the Yota for a 'lil truck... I'll be looking soon at the bigguns though and I'm still not sure if the Yota is up to that task as I'm thinking 2500, F250, yada, yada, yada

[Striper SniperX]

WOW,,, i love it when Ford people try and defend themselfs (it's all good)



"Do you know what a HEMI is?"
*John, Hemi is one B-A-D Mopar (have a dart with 383 hemi, thing ZOOMS)

"i can understand that if pops says that his Ram is his best truck ever"
*He never said that,, and it can't be proven, arent going to fight over trucks. but dodge not only looks better,, you can hear that magnum V8 roaring down the street , and i am not kidding guys., i hear fords all the time,, sounds like a car,, and a when it starts up it sounds like a ,, well, i don't what

"Now Dodge's new 4.7 MagnumForceFeedbackCaddilacGive-A-Dog-a-Bone motor is probably all nice"
*lol john ,, but it's more like , 5.7 ltr Hemi (zoom)!

"that means only 25% of them will crap out on ya..."
c'mon, where is that going 25% is good for the 40% of fords (just a close estimate

"So not trying to crunch stones on ya but I think there are a few people slightly more automotively inclined than you"
*More then my Uncle to ? Hmmm, i dunno about that one... (jk)

"I'm still a fan of the Yota for a 'lil truck"
*It's a hell of a lil' truck,, go for it.... i like the older t-100s , a simple design but does the trick..


Bloo, Correction
"I've also heard that the Dodge's engines tend to Slip ...."
Older Model (94/96) TRANNYS sliped after a while, dodge noticed and fixed the problem,, old news,, hit me with something current,, oh,, lemme talk about fords now,, anyone say "Explosion?" (pinto-lol) pretty old also, huh?

Jenn,
Don't get me wrong,. i am not saying the 'yota' is a bad truck, and just like ya said to each his own ,,, and i bet the toyota does move in the sand ,, may i ask ya a question ? Ever see a Ram 1500 5.9 V8 Magnum pinned at 130 on the Newport Bridge ? (we where in a hurry to go no-where, day we bought the ram)
It does pretty well in sand and snow as well,, we took the truck to the dunes near my house ,, there is a new K-mart there now tho,, anywayz that's the soft sand,, put in 4whl High and it was pretty fun,,, Dodge rams have some nice performance to them! Toyotas may also,, but i like a nice tough American Truck!


Ford Guys,, we can fight over trucks,, heck it gets us where we wanna go,, (dodge ram gets ya there a bit faster & in style) but still "who-cares" we pulled a NEWER ford F-250 powerstroke DIESEL in 4whl LOW with our Ram 1500 5.9 ,that's right, we pulled it in 4high , didn't even need 4 low,,, fords back tires spun, it looked bad at first but we won,, put a chevy up there ,, now that's a challenge, but not close and i don't hate chevy/gmc like i hate ford, cause we used to have a 93 Chevy S-10 V6 2wd and we pulled out my dads friends 22' walkaround,, so chevy has the power as well, but dodge ram is just,, can't explain it,,
and fords are Cheap Quality, i been in the new fords, and the old fords they are too low to the ground,,they ride like S^#%,,and slip all over the place in the rain and snow,, and THEY CANNOT PERFORM VERY WELL IN SOFT SAND! i seen that first hand i could go on and on with the fords i've seen get saved by rams and chevys, but you all don't need or want to hear that

,, only ford truck i would ever concider buying, if i had to own a ford,, would be a F-150 Lightning, cause them trucks have some serious B@LLs ,, but i am a Mopar Man, always!


It's all Fun, No hard feelings (Ford Guys)

Have a good one!

[Van]

Well here I go again !!!!!!

Love those F-150s.......


Bloo look at what you started....

[bloocrab]

Originally posted by Striper SniperX
...hit me with something current,, ...

[Striper SniperX]

Sorry Bloo, Didn't mean to get ya stumped

it's a nice looking truck van,, if only it ran as good as it looks
Just Playin' around
No Hard Feelings

Have a Good one Guys!

[StarsnStripers]

I think these truck arguments are foolish and pointless....
Although I don't know as much as you guys on trucks, bloocrab and john R, I am not familiar with all the 23 letter parts, but I have rode in many fords and own a ram, and "pops" 2002 ram feels 100% more comfortable and safe!!! (and sexier lookin' on top of it all!)

Heres a pic of the new 2003 ram:

[StarsnStripers]

Or would you rather have the 2003 F-150??

[JohnR]

You own a RAM? How fast have you gone with it? How does it handle on sand? What is the best air down for it?

I'm going back to the early 90s because that's when I used to work in the SERVICE Departments for GM, Jeep (aka Chrysler), and 'Yota.

"So not trying to crunch stones on ya but I think there are a few people slightly more automotively inclined than you"
*More then my Uncle to ? Hmmm, i dunno about that one... (jk)
Well - i don't know about your Uncle (is he a mekinic?) but I'll go out on a limb and say I know a little more about them than you. Now I'm far from an automotive expert but I have done some involved things that I'm willing to bet are a bit further down the automotive pipeline than reading Car&Driver or Kit Cart magazine. Tops on the list was a 4cyl to a modded 6cyl Fiero Conversion. I didn't have the coin to do the V8

BTW - a "Hemi" is a hemispherical combustion chamber design. It's intention is to swirl the air/fuel for a better burn. And Dodge is not the only manufacturer to use a hemispherical chamber design.

In the near future, I hope to be getting a new Full Size 4x4 truck. I will weigh the 4 big boys (well 3.5, the Tundra is still borderline big in my eyes ). I'll be basing my decision on experience, research, and a little seat-O-da-pants driving. Too bad they won't let ya test with a cooler rack on, wink-wink/nudge-nudge...

[StarsnStripers]

My dad owns a 2002 Ram, and we have gone 115 in it, I'm sure it goes much faster, it's just my dad like driving slow, goin for a walk and takin his car .
But when I get my Ram when I ama older, It would be interesting to race against a ford (kinda boring, cuz it'll be out of my vision feild, far behind)
But more interesting will be to race with a Chevy, a very fair competitor, and Toyota. I like both, I just dislike ford.

[StarsnStripers]

SSX, you have told me that your uncles knew everything about quahoggin', fishing, and boats, but you never told me they knew bout trucks.... What does he own?? Hope it's a ram!

[Van]

Before i bought my F-150 I drove all three american mades.
The dodge I drove must have been a dog cause' it had no power
and rode crappy. When I drove the ford it was night and day.
I bought it on the spot.

However, I had to rent a truck last year when my truck was in the body shop (an old lady hit it parked and took out the pass. side door!!!)

The only truck they had was a RAM and it did have pretty good acceleration and a decent ride. Don't know why it was different than the one I test drove, but still, IMO, side to side off the line, my truck would leave it behind no problem.

So this is MHO, but I don't think less of other brands, this was just my preference, based on my experience.

And most truck/SUV owners go off-road as often as mountain goats come into town for a double cappuchino !!!!!!