tuna ?? - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

pal156 · 02-20-2008, 10:59 AM

I was wondering which you prefer to use a spreader bar,or daisy chains

beamie · 02-20-2008, 11:06 AM

Both, bars and chains with birds. vary the spread. Sometimes depends on your size of boat. Set rigs at various depths from the stern so when making turns they have less chance of fouling each other.

pal156 · 02-20-2008, 11:09 AM

i'm running a 18.5 seafox

keeperreaper · 02-20-2008, 11:13 AM

I run mostly bars staggered so like BJ said I can make turns. I run a 21' boat so it is not big. I think you get more bang for your buck due to the increased profile of the spread with bars versus chains. Many others run birds and chains and do well. Experiment.

thefishingfreak · 02-20-2008, 07:20 PM

4 bars @15 squid each= 60 lures in the water
8 bars=120 lures

4 daisey chains=20 lures
what spread looks better?

you can run 4 bars on any boat no problem. rocket launcher add two more. with outriggers you can run 8 noooooo problem.

keeperreaper · 02-20-2008, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by thefishingfreak

4 bars @15 squid each= 60 lures in the water
8 bars=120 lures

4 daisey chains=20 lures
what spread looks better?

you can run 4 bars on any boat no problem. rocket launcher add two more. with outriggers you can run 8 noooooo problem.

Thank you! Exactly. FF we need to tooooona fish sometime
!!

Raider Ronnie · 02-20-2008, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by thefishingfreak

4 bars @15 squid each= 60 lures in the water
8 bars=120 lures

4 daisey chains=20 lures
what spread looks better?

you can run 4 bars on any boat no problem. rocket launcher add two more. with outriggers you can run 8 noooooo problem.

As we say,
"Stacking the odds"

big jay · 02-20-2008, 09:11 PM

Put 7 fresh Mackeral on a daisy chain on one side and a plastic squid bar on the other - which do you think is gonna get his first

Raider Ronnie · 02-20-2008, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by big jay

Put 7 fresh Mackeral on a daisy chain on one side and a plastic squid bar on the other - which do you think is gonna get his first

Or locate some fish and yo yo some macs!

thefishingfreak · 02-20-2008, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by big jay

Put 7 fresh Mackeral on a daisy chain on one side and a plastic squid bar on the other - which do you think is gonna get his first

I say Pffttt...
You'll have to prove it. When WE going.

Raider Ronnie · 02-20-2008, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by thefishingfreak

I say Pffttt...
You'll have to prove it. When WE going.

Trying to hoe a ride on a very nice Duffy !
Make sure you tell him you need your crew!

thefishingfreak · 02-20-2008, 10:33 PM

Who,,,, Bradley

I'm workin this corner back off

pal156 · 02-20-2008, 10:53 PM

thanks for the info

Van · 02-21-2008, 09:21 AM

On a smaller boat (like my 21' and yours) run as many bars as you can without tangling. More noise the better....

I can get 4 out using my two "homemade" custom outriggers.
But, even that is tricky if its rough out there.

I've not had much lke with chains compared to bars.
Do you make your own or buy them?
I will be building more bars in the next month or so......., hurry up spring.....I CAN'T WAIT !!!!!

Good Luck.
Post pics (only of fish you actually catch;; not a friends fish!!! LOL)

keeperreaper · 02-21-2008, 09:28 AM

On a 21 with outriggers and someone in the 'pit you should be able to run 6 rods no problem and 9 if you go subsurface. It only gets nuts and confusing if you get a greyhounding fish to wrap everything up. I don't and won't run the full spread if there are novices or people with limited experience with me. That being said a 5 rod spread is very, VERY effective.
9 Rod spread= 4 off the riggers, 2 off the corners, 2 deep, and one WTF back!

pal156 · 02-21-2008, 10:07 AM

for this year i will probably run 2 rods,because that is what the budget will allow,unless i hit the lottery.

pal156 · 02-21-2008, 10:08 AM

i will buy the bars for now

keeperreaper · 02-21-2008, 10:14 AM

When we first strated we ran 2 bars and caught. It can be done plus you will learn a ton about the characteristics of the bars and the way they run in accordance to your boat. Good luck. -Matt

thefishingfreak · 02-21-2008, 12:49 PM

run 2 bars off the side rodholders or whichever puts the rod tips up highest. run them back as far as you can without the bars digging in and staying under. if they go under on the big waves don't worry about it. don't worry about the line in the water in front of them.
Run them so when you turn the front bar is about five feet in front of the back one..

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fish4striper · 02-21-2008, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by thefishingfreak

run 2 bars off the side rodholders or whichever puts the rod tips up highest. run them back as far as you can without the bars digging in and staying under. if they go under on the big waves don't worry about it. don't worry about the line in the water in front of them.
Run them so when you turn the front bar is about five feet in front of the back one..

like this.
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you seem to be getting pumped up

Pal, Where you fish?

pal156 · 02-21-2008, 05:17 PM

race point,buzzards bay but will go most anywhere if needed

thefishingfreak · 02-21-2008, 06:34 PM

[QUOTE=fish4striper;567460]you seem to be getting pumped up

[QUOTE]
I am pumped.... I'll have paa-lenty of time to fish this year...

this how we run 8 rods

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they never tangle, most of the fish will hit it and go strait to the bottom. but i seen chatham fish bolt sideways.
the furthest ones go back as far as you can get them then set the others five feet ahead of each other stagered.
about 5 knots 1700-1900 rpm. mess with the rpm's a tiny bit till you get it right {catch one} then carve a notch in the tach. that is where you need to be, all the time,,, not 100 rpm over or under just right..

chinese fire drill with only three guys, but hey it works.

thefishingfreak · 02-21-2008, 06:41 PM

and you can use 6/0 or 9/0 black beauty penns. they don't have to be gold. this one was on a 9/0

pal156 · 02-21-2008, 08:34 PM

nice fish

keeperreaper · 02-22-2008, 09:18 AM

This is the nine rod spread and the 5 rod spread.
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5 rod

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The 5 rod spread above is probably the most used spread in the small boat fleet due to it ease of deployment.

keeperreaper · 02-22-2008, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by thefishingfreak

the furthest ones go back as far as you can get them then set the others five feet ahead of each other stagered.
about 5 knots 1700-1900 rpm. mess with the rpm's a tiny bit till you get it right {catch one} then carve a notch in the tach. that is where you need to be, all the time,,, not 100 rpm over or under just right..

FF thats good advice. Nice spread description too.

taJon · 02-22-2008, 03:19 PM

mike you're killing me with those pics. now run the spread with no outriggers

thefishingfreak · 02-22-2008, 03:37 PM

there's no outriggers on that boat in the pic it's a 22' wellcraft. he runs 5 rods one up in the rocket launcher funny when one hits the top rod and all you hear is drag screamin but none of the rods are bent. then you finally look up and it's 1/2 spooled allready

on riff-raff we got this huge teaser tied off the cleat about ten feet back. looks like a huge marlin lure about a foot long and big wide as a dinner plate makes all kinds of commotion. looks like a seal chasing the boat.

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keeperreaper · 02-22-2008, 04:59 PM

taJon,

I fully expect many photos of tuna on the World cat this year. No excuses.

179 · 02-22-2008, 05:30 PM

When I was fishing for Tuna up that way I always used artificials in a 3-4 rod spread. It always worked well but many of the fish I caught were smaller football sized. Here in the Outer Banks I have learned to rig ballyhoo, I have never had a tuna take a artificial over a rigged bait. I am not sure how this will work out in New England's waters but I can not wait to try it.