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Sea Dangles · 12-12-2008, 07:37 AM

No one would go to eelfest,pogiefest sounds rivetting.

But PLUGfest, that's a PARTY!!!

Sea Dangles · 12-12-2008, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by numbskull

Now I'm really confused. So if Steve Campo was such a good fisherman, what did he and his friends want the plugs for? Wouldn't eels do instead?

There are times when bait is not practical or attainable. I have set out to fish and if I can't make bait I go home. I can't reach the center of the ditch with a pogie head so in this instance I swallow my pride and throw a painted piece of wood with hooks stuck in it. Different applications call for different methods.

Joe · 12-12-2008, 09:13 AM

Eels are very effective, but they cast like crap and they cost money and they need to be tended to. Every three bass, or one bluefish, you catch on lure, the realized cost of the lure depreciates by the price of one eel. If you are selling fish, dealing with eels and deep hooked fish slows you down more than popping them off a plug.

I've read many times where people started experimenting building plugs and then it grew into a commercial venture. Also, the reasons people do things originally, and keep doing them later on, is not fixed. You might start a venture for one reason, and find yourself doing it five years later for different reasons. Motivations are personal and transitory; they expire with the passing of the people who held them, what is left is legacy. The legacy of the original plug builders is greater and more secure now, than ever.

Vogt · 12-12-2008, 09:52 AM

The fact of the matter is, that some people prefer to fish with eels, whereas some would prefer to plug. Why knock each other around about it. Remember this is upposed to be fun, not some kind of contest to see whos method of surfcasting is more effective.

I fish eels and plugs about 50/50, eels are amazing but there are certain situations in which they dont seem to produce.

Pete F. · 12-12-2008, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Vogt

The fact of the matter is, that some people prefer to fish with eels, whereas some would prefer to plug. Why knock each other around about it. .

It's winter is'nt it?
I think this is all pretty good natured XXXXbusting

JohnR · 12-12-2008, 10:15 AM

Yes, alas, it is winter....

On my soapbox...

Fish the way YOU want and the way that delivers YOU satisfaction. Whether eels, plugs, flies, or a big old hunkkaclam.

Off sandbox, carry on folks...

fishaholic18 · 12-12-2008, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnR

Yes, alas, it is winter....

On my soapbox...

Fish the way YOU want and the way that delivers YOU satisfaction. Whether eels, plugs, flies, or a big old hunkkaclam.

Off sandbox, carry on folks...

Yup...let them all fish their plugs.....More bait and big fish for the rest of us fisherman...

BigFish · 12-12-2008, 10:25 AM

Like a bunch of 8 year olds!

My way is better than yours....waahhh.....wahhhh....wahhhhhhhhh!

fishaholic18 · 12-12-2008, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by BigFish

Like a bunch of 8 year olds!

My way is better than yours....waahhh.....wahhhh....wahhhhhhhhh!

Merry Xmas

ProfessorM · 12-12-2008, 10:47 AM

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To each his own
Do what makes you happy. If everyone did the same thing life would be very boring and we would all be bitching about the same thing

numbskull · 12-12-2008, 11:04 AM

Sooooooooooo..... then this fisherman's fisherman, Mr Campo, that everyone respects so much primarily fished eels and only collected plugs for conversation and the rare occasions when he couldn't throw eels downwind? Surely somebody here knew him and confirm this.

And Mr Gibbs, Mr Musso, and Mr Pichney liked eels best, but used plugs as a way to make a quick buck off less knowledgable fishermen? Is that true?

Enquiring minds want to know?

Jimmy Fee · 12-12-2008, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by steve

No sales pitch, just a kudo. Thanks for the NB info. I would like to get a bottle darter or two.

You and me both. It seems like you need to know which shop is getting them before the shops even know it. I'm very curious to see how the bottle darters swim in person, but I don't doubt they catch.

steve · 12-12-2008, 11:22 AM

That's why I bought one, and posed the original question? The bottle plug has always been a very situational plug for me , but on the rare occasion when I've clipped one on, I've done pretty well. Believe it or not I have taken 3 very big fish on them over the years. I always liked the Gibbs 3 oz. mackerel bottle and more recently, the Supersrike in parrot , yellow or black/yellow. I just wanted to know if anyone out there was more aware of these new bottles by North bar.

steve · 12-12-2008, 11:26 AM

By the way, Numbskull. I fished on BI in the 80's alot and ran into Steve Campo on occasion. He was always using needlfish or 7 inch loaded redfins most likely because they worked and because it was always blowing a gale which made live eel fishing extremely difficult. Steve used to say that the guys from RI were lousy fisherman because they used yellow Stren line. He was just busting.

numbskull · 12-12-2008, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by steve

By the way, Numbskull. I fished on BI in the 80's alot and ran into Steve Campo on occasion. He was always using needlfish or 7 inch loaded redfins most likely because they worked and because it was always blowing a gale which made live eel fishing extremely difficult. Steve used to say that the guys from RI were lousy fisherman because they used yellow Stren line. He was just busting.

Wouldn't Block Island have a downwind side?
Why would he accumulate special metal lip plugs as mentioned above to throw into a gale?
None of this seems to make sense. We all know eels work better. So why did all these good fishermen go to plugs?
Anybody?

BigFish · 12-12-2008, 11:31 AM

I wish I could "think" I was as good a fisherman as many on here think they are! I hope someday to be a "sharpie"! Oh pleez oh pleez oh pleez! I feel bad for many of you....I really do because you miss the point.

steve · 12-12-2008, 11:47 AM

Numbskull, I 'm not familier with Campo's special swimmers. Steve, like most everybody on BI back then threw the weighted Redfin then the needlefish as they became availble. Really, it was tough to throw eels out there as it was always windy and/or real big seas even in the lees. I tied rigged eels on occasion which usually resulted in chop-offs. Yes , they were there too.

NIB · 12-12-2008, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BigFish

I wish I could "think" I was as good a fisherman as many on here think they are! I hope someday to be a "sharpie"! Oh pleez oh pleez oh pleez! I feel bad for many of you....I really do because you miss the point.

Wake up larry it's winter..

Basically the whole thing in jest..

Flaptail · 12-12-2008, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by numbskull

Now I'm really confused. So if Steve Campo was such a good fisherman, what did he and his friends want the plugs for? Wouldn't eels do instead?

Tony C. knew and knows Campo very well. We have talked at length about him. Campo was a rabid bass fisherman and just like when we fished eels and bait we (at least I) still had to have every plug that came down the pike. It's an obsession. You think you had to have it because it might be that one thing that gets you better catches than the next guy.

Tony told me that when his shop (Bass Run)was out of Pichneys or Musso's wooden creations that he could always ge a bunch from Steve C. because it was unbelievable that someone could carry that many plugs on a fishing trip plus the eel live and rigged. He was simply obsessed, aren't we all when it comes to Striper fishing in some sort of way?

Tony said Mr. Campo lives in Canada now looking for better bass grounds as far as he knew.

I'd love to meet him.

Grapenuts · 12-12-2008, 01:56 PM

there is a word for all that plug buying, and it's a real sickness treated only by a doctor..I know someone just like steve c. who lives in orleans..he was telling me he has a basement full of thousands still in their pkging from back in the sixties..you name it he has them..evert color and size...he told me that he'd spend 3/4 of his pay check every week buying stuff he knew he'd never use, had to get his fix.For years he kept this up untill he was treated for this sickness....and to this day he still won't part with one.Said his wife and kids will be very well taken care of when he passes and they have a yardsale.

ProfessorM · 12-12-2008, 02:03 PM

Don't forget to call me when this takes place

Raven · 12-12-2008, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Back Beach

You are unwavering, my friend. May the great oracle in the sky bless you.....

flyvice11787 · 12-12-2008, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Grapenuts

there is a word for all that plug buying, and it's a real sickness treated only by a doctor..I know someone just like steve c. who lives in orleans..he was telling me he has a basement full of thousands still in their pkging from back in the sixties..you name it he has them..evert color and size...he told me that he'd spend 3/4 of his pay check every week buying stuff he knew he'd never use, had to get his fix.For years he kept this up untill he was treated for this sickness....and to this day he still won't part with one.Said his wife and kids will be very well taken care of when he passes and they have a yardsale.

Hopefully, his wife and kids will know what the plugs are actually worth before they sell it off

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Sea Dangles · 12-12-2008, 02:47 PM

Campo had different colors painted on the nose of his plugs which would indicate whether it was a deep, medium or shallow swimmer.This way all he had to do was look into his bag to know which suited the application. He customized most of his arsenal and seemed to be another tinkerer.He sold a warehouse of plugs years back to subsidize his retirement home up in Nova Scotia. I still have many of his mercury filled bombers that I love to use in Cotuit.

Nebe · 12-12-2008, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by numbskull

We all know eels work better. So why did all these good fishermen go to plugs?
Anybody?

I dont think that you could get eels on block island in the 80's...and as a result, plugs were used.

steve · 12-12-2008, 04:18 PM

Nebe, Twin Maples used to carry them sporadically and Joe Mollica, then owner of The top of the Dock in Gansett, , used to "ship" them over to us and the other guys, even the Islanders. But because of the very large sand eels ever present the 7 " redfin and the like, then the needlefish plugs, perfectly mimicked that bait.