Thanks for the input.
I looked at PCTools but decided to try Outpost Firewall 2009.
I tried the PCTools antivirus before and they get you into the buy later or Trial Pay stuff so I decided against it. I think there stuff (they offere many programs) is pretty good but only if you buy the full versions.
So far this outpost is pretty easy to use. It was highly rated buy users but has not been rated by the editors at Downlaods.com. It has a self learn period of one week and it also has preloaded sites like MS and adobe , Symantec etc. Big sites that are known to be OK so that you don't have to keep OKing every single site like windows updates etc. I'll try to remember to report back how I like it a month from now.
I used to run Black Ice. That was a good one but I forget what happened and I lost it. Maybe I needed to renew it for a fee or something. It was simple and worked well. After I try outpost for a while and after the self learn week I'll "Leak test" it to see if its any good.
I just had a bout with a clever virus that symantec caught quickly but couldn't remove or quarantine. When it quarantined it it locked up the system. It also prevented me access to a dos window and to my restore files. With help from John and Smokey's brother and a lot of my own time I got it out without having to reload windows.
Now I have Symantec Corporate and AVG 8.5 running in real time mode and I have Dr Web on the syetm which I will run once a week. Its amazing how each AV rprogram finds some the others don't but also misses some the others get.
I hate virus writers. They should get their fingers cut off so they can't work a keyboard!
