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05-26-2009, 02:48 AM
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Very Grumpy bay man
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 10,824
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Strange year so far
It has been a very strange year so far in Narr. Bay. One day the upper reaches of the Bay have so many bunker you can walk on them. The next day, zero. Also no bunker in any of the coves. They seem to be in one spot and then gone from even there for days.
One day, I have big bass, up to 25#, in good numbers. The next day, zero. Now, these are not hit or miss spots. These are spot that held bass for 2 days and have always been " go to" spots then have been going cold for the next week. All the while using live pogies. Not like anything I have encountered before. In past years, if you had live bunker, you could get some action. Maybe not hook up but at least some chases.
Are the bass in trouble again like some of the guys have been preaching?
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05-26-2009, 04:16 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 22,805
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conditions have made it necessary to stay on the move.....
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05-26-2009, 06:13 AM
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sick of bluefish
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: TEXAS
Posts: 8,672
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I fished live bunker at some of my spots with zero action. A few chases but no takers. On the other hand some great topwater action for bass 30-35". I think its late. One more week and the big ones show up. but thats a guess, WTH do I know.
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05-26-2009, 12:08 PM
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Very Grumpy bay man
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 10,824
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RIJIMMY
I fished live bunker at some of my spots with zero action. A few chases but no takers. On the other hand some great topwater action for bass 30-35". I think its late. One more week and the big ones show up. but thats a guess, WTH do I know.
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As much as any of us right now. If the thread about NJ is true then the big fish are still coming because they don't stay in NJ all summer. |
No boat, back in the suds.
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05-26-2009, 03:53 PM
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sick of bluefish
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: TEXAS
Posts: 8,672
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if any survive!!
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05-26-2009, 04:10 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: harrisville ri
Posts: 516
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They better hurry Arch Bait was working north of Conimicut light today,Manny bunker gone.
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05-26-2009, 04:27 PM
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Soggy Bottom Boy
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Billerica, Ma.
Posts: 7,260
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Could be changing water temps?
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Surfcasting Full Throttle
Don't judge me Monkey 
Recreational Surfcaster 99.9% C&R
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05-27-2009, 07:13 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: East Prov RI
Posts: 1,501
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denis
They better hurry Arch Bait was working north of Conimicut light today,Manny bunker gone.
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pogies here one day ,gone the next? wonder why...
they made three sets last thurs too |
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05-27-2009, 07:37 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 22,805
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some of that fish by product goes to cattle and chicken farms
as a food supplement... believe it or not... so when your
eating that burger, steak or roasted chicken in reality your eating
(in part ) some oily fish like pogie too.  |
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05-27-2009, 07:51 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: 14000 / 44031.5
Posts: 932
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Saw 2 pogie boats hauling back yesterday afternoon in Mt Hope Bay.
They were practically on top of each other.
I personally like the fact that the pogies are a little hard to find.
Last year any donkey in a rowboat with a snag hook could get themselves a 25lb bass.
Having to work some is a good thing.
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05-27-2009, 11:42 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: East Prov RI
Posts: 1,501
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Quote:
Originally Posted by big jay
Saw 2 pogie boats hauling back yesterday afternoon in Mt Hope Bay.
They were practically on top of each other.
I personally like the fact that the pogies are a little hard to find.
Last year any donkey in a rowboat with a snag hook could get themselves a 25lb bass.
Having to work some is a good thing.
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True Jay, we got fish with ahd without them
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05-27-2009, 12:10 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: 14000 / 44031.5
Posts: 932
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Great Pics Jeff!
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
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05-27-2009, 12:49 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 119
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I posted earlier about the boats. There's 2 from Gloucester, one a big red one that looke like Ark and a smaller one that can get up inside where the big one can't. They're pl#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&g every pogie they can find.
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05-28-2009, 02:51 AM
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Very Grumpy bay man
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 10,824
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I was WAY up the Providence River one day last weekend and there was a boat from Glouster MA called the Ugly Duck setting nets 100 feet from the hurricane barrier. I called RIDEM Enforcement and they told me I was nuts!
I convinced them I was 10 feet from the boat and they said they would send someone. No one ever showed up and no one got any pogies except the Ugly Duck. Also I noted with disgust the fact that the nets were also full of bass and the crew on the Ugly Duck kept all the bass.
I have given up pogy fishing. Too much work running up to Providence, putting up with idiots in "speed boats" roaring around trying to snag the few pogies that are left. Gone to eels and nights. OUT!
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No boat, back in the suds.
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05-28-2009, 06:03 AM
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Also known as OAK
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Westlery, RI
Posts: 10,408
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Quote:
Originally Posted by piemma
I was WAY up the Providence River one day last weekend and there was a boat from Glouster MA called the Ugly Duck setting nets 100 feet from the hurricane barrier. I called RIDEM Enforcement and they told me I was nuts!
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Paul, my source said they are known %$%$%$%$%$%$%$s, but can fish there...
the bass thing, next time take pictures! |
Bryan
Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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05-28-2009, 06:38 AM
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Fish Hound
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Shrewsbury, MA & Mashpee, MA
Posts: 1,159
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Quote:
Originally Posted by piemma
Gone to eels and nights. OUT!
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thats all you need this time of the year... gonna pick some up on the ride home tonight. went out last night on the south side of MV and got some smaller fish but nothing of size over 28" maybe. maybe a big fat eel will entice  |
"There are many things in life that will catch your eye, but only a few will catch your heart.....pursue those."
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05-28-2009, 06:50 AM
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Seldom Seen
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 10,543
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That red boat was netting inside Salem harbor last year too. He even set inside the mooring field in no more than 4 feet of water..... On one set he hauled 96 boxes!
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“Americans have the right and advantage of being armed, unlike the people of other countries, whose leaders are afraid to trust them with arms.” – James Madison.
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05-28-2009, 08:51 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Fall River
Posts: 238
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denis
They better hurry Arch Bait was working north of Conimicut light today,Manny bunker gone.
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Every pogie boat in the bay is not ARK BAIT CO. As a matter of absolute fact Ark has not even set yet, soon, but not yet. The red boat is not Ark, no more red boat. If the pogie biomass in the bay increases you will see an expected SIX different companies catching bait this year. Art |
rather be fishin'
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05-28-2009, 11:45 AM
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Also known as OAK
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Westlery, RI
Posts: 10,408
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Quote:
Originally Posted by inTHERAPY
Every pogie boat in the bay is not ARK BAIT CO. As a matter of absolute fact Ark has not even set yet, soon, but not yet. The red boat is not Ark, no more red boat. If the pogie biomass in the bay increases you will see an expected SIX different companies catching bait this year. Art
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Yeah..
Ark doesn't look so bad any more, huh?
(thats rhetorical, not directed at you inThearpy)
Before all this RISAA/Legistaltor pogie fuss it was a quiet little one boat operation.
now up to half a dozen. I'm fully convinced the hoopla of a few years ago brought the Bay pogy stocks to the attention of northern neighbors...
Pandora's box I suppose... |
Bryan
Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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05-28-2009, 12:57 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Cumberland,RI
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I thought they had made rules that the pogie boats could not fish the northern part of the Bay? I forget the landmark between the north and south not allowed/allowed line but I thought that had all been worked out?
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Saltheart
Custom Crafted Rods by Saltheart
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05-28-2009, 01:17 PM
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Also known as OAK
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Westlery, RI
Posts: 10,408
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My source close to it said they could fish all the way up if they desired, w/ some closed areas.
http://www.dem.ri.gov/pubs/regs/regs...ild/rimf16.pdf |
Bryan
Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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05-28-2009, 01:50 PM
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ditch boy
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: the sea
Posts: 664
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gunpowder
thats all you need this time of the year... gonna pick some up on the ride home tonight. went out last night on the south side of MV and got some smaller fish but nothing of size over 28" maybe. maybe a big fat eel will entice |
wow thats impressive....mike is "actually" fishing the vineyard this year. 
...kidding man lol... |
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05-28-2009, 01:58 PM
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Georgetown MA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND
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Question on this...It states that it is illegal to take menhaden for rendering. Yet they are allowed to take 120,000 pounds a day.....What else can they be doing with the catch. That can't all be for bait. |
"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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05-28-2009, 02:23 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2008
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The only good part about the pogie boats is that for 10 bucks, you can get a net full of live bait from them.
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05-28-2009, 03:09 PM
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Also known as OAK
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Westlery, RI
Posts: 10,408
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dinsdale
The only good part about the pogie boats is that for 10 bucks, you can get a net full of live bait from them.
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Then ipso facto you are supporting them. Which is fine if you weren't one of the vocal opponents of all commercial pogy fishing.... but...
sooo many of the people against the pogy boats were still taking live or dead bait from them. Where I come from that is called talking out both sides of your mouth.
TDF:
bait is what it says, so I'd have to assume it is unless they have the documents it is being rendered. |
Bryan
Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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05-29-2009, 11:15 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Fall River
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND
Yeah..
Ark doesn't look so bad any more, huh?
(thats rhetorical, not directed at you inThearpy)
Before all this RISAA/Legistaltor pogie fuss it was a quiet little one boat operation.
now up to half a dozen. I'm fully convinced the hoopla of a few years ago brought the Bay pogy stocks to the attention of northern neighbors...
Pandora's box I suppose... |
IMO you've hit the bulls eye with this comment and with the "both sides of your mouth comment." I have witnessed "blatant disrespect for the law" ( a little Smokey and the Bandit ) from the other boat but nothing seems to change. |
rather be fishin'
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05-29-2009, 11:33 AM
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Very Grumpy bay man
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 10,824
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Quote:
Originally Posted by inTHERAPY
IMO you've hit the bulls eye with this comment and with the "both sides of your mouth comment." I have witnessed "blatant disrespect for the law" ( a little Smokey and the Bandit ) from the other boat but nothing seems to change.
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Personally, I don't take pogies from the commercial boats but I saw guys doing just that. Then they bitch about the commercial boat. Just as Bryan said "both sides of your mouth".
I also know that there are guys buying totes of fresh pogies and chunking and doing just as good as live lining. It's all in what you want to get out of the sport.
I've gone to nights and eels. I have never chunked. Not even when I was it the surf. I will not get as many large but I will feel better about the way I fish.
I have come full circle and I admit it. Any nitwit can catch big bass with a live pogie. The Providence River has turned into an absolute zoo and I just won't do the run anymore. The last time I went there was this %#$@*& in a red "speedboat" who would run full throttle right in between boats that were trying to snag. The guy would just flip people off when someone complained. If you think that's what fishing for Stripers is all about....you can have it.
Back 30 years ago in the heyday of the commercial rod and reel that guy would have had his boat shot up. |
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05-29-2009, 12:38 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by piemma
Back 30 years ago in the heyday of the commercial rod and reel that guy would have had his boat shot up.
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Well after the first time he pulled that, I think I would snag him on his next pass. |
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05-29-2009, 12:45 PM
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Also known as OAK
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Westlery, RI
Posts: 10,408
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Quote:
Originally Posted by inTHERAPY
IMO you've hit the bulls eye with this comment and with the "both sides of your mouth comment." I have witnessed "blatant disrespect for the law" ( a little Smokey and the Bandit ) from the other boat but nothing seems to change.
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Which 'other boat' |
Bryan
Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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