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		|  08-16-2009, 03:09 PM | #1 |  
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 As soon as his cancer was detected, I noticed the immediate attempt at the "canonization" of old Teddy Kennedy by the mainstream media. They are saying what a "great American" he is.  I say, let's get a couple things clear & not twist the facts to change the real history. 
1.    He was caught cheating at Harvard when he attended it.  He was expelled twice, once for cheating on a test, and once for paying a classmate to cheat for him.
 
2.    While expelled, Kennedy enlisted in the Army, but mistakenly signed up for four years instead of two.  Oops!  The man can't count to four!  His father, Joseph P. Kennedy, former U.S. Ambassador to England (a step up from bootlegging liquor into the US from Canada  during prohibition), pulled the necessary strings to have his enlistment shortened to two years, and to ensure that he served in Europe, not Korea , where a war was raging.  No preferential treatment for him! (like he charged that President Bush received).
  
3.    Kennedy was assigned to Paris , never advanced beyond the rank of Private, and returned to Harvard upon being discharged..  Imagine a person of his "education" NEVER advancing past the rank of Private!
 
 4.    While attending law school at the University of Virginia , he was cited for reckless driving four times, including once when he was clocked driving 90 miles per hour in a residential neighborhood with his headlights off after dark.  Yet his Virginia driver's license was never revoked.  Coincidentally, he passed the bar exam in 1959.  Amazing!
  
5..    In 1964, he was seriously injured in a plane crash, and hospitalized for several months.  Test results done by the hospital at the time he was admitted had shown he was legally intoxicated.  The results of those tests remained a "state secret" until in the 1980's when the report was unsealed.  Didn't hear about that from the unbiased media, did we?
 
6.    On July 19, 1969, Kennedy attended a party on Chappaquid#^^^^& Island in Massachusetts .  At about 11:00 PM, he borrowed his chauffeur's keys to his Oldsmobile limousine, and offered to give a ride home to Mary Jo Kopechne, a campaign worker.  Leaving the island via an unlit bridge with no guard rail, Kennedy steered the car off the bridge, flipped, and into Poucha Pond.
 
7.    He swam to shore and walked back to the party, passing several houses and a fire station.  Two friends then returned with him to the scene of the accident.  According to their later testimony, they told him what he already knew - that he was required by law to immediately report the accident to the authorities.  Instead Kennedy made his way to his hotel, called his lawyer, and went to sleep.  Kennedy called the police the next morning and by then the wreck had already been discovered.  Before dying, Kopechne had scratched at the upholstered floor above her head in the upside-down car.  
The Kennedy family began "calling in favors", ensuring that any inquiry would be contained.  Her corpse was whisked out-of-state to her family, before an autopsy could be conducted.  Further details are uncertain, but after the accident Kennedy says he repeatedly dove under the water trying to rescue Kopechne and he didn't call police because he was in a state of shock. It is widely assumed Kennedy was drunk, and he held off calling police in hopes that his family could fix the problem overnight.  Since the accident, Kennedy's "political enemies" have referred to him as the distinguished Senator from Chappaquid#^^^^&.  He pled guilty to leaving the scene of an accident, and was given a SUSPENDED SENTENCE OF TWO MONTHS.  Kopechne's family received a small payout from the Kennedy's insurance policy, and never sued.  There was  later an effort to have her body exhumed and autopsied,  but her family  successfully fought against this in court, and  Kennedy's family  paid their attorney's bills... a "token of  friendship"?
 
8.    Kennedy has held his Senate seat for more than forty years, but considering his longevity, his accomplishments seem scant.  He authored or argued for legislation that ensured a variety of civil rights, increased the minimum wage in 1981, made access to health care easier for the indigent, and funded Meals on Wheels for fixed-income seniors and is widely held as the "standard-bearer for liberalism". In his very first Senate roll, he was the floor manager for the bill that turned U.S. immigration policy upside down and opened the floodgate for immigrants from third world countries.
 
9.    Since that time, he has been the prime instigator and author of every expansion of an increase in immigration, up to and including the latest attempt to grant amnesty to illegal aliens.  Not to mention the pious grilling he gave the last two Supreme Court nominees, as if he was the standard bearer for the nation in matters of "what's right".  What a pompous ass!
 
10.    He is known around Washington as a public drunk, loud, boisterous and very disrespectful to ladies.  JERK is a better description than "great American".  "A blonde in every pond" is his motto.
 
Let's not allow the spin doctors make this jerk a hero -- how quickly the American public forgets what his real legacy is.  Let's keep this going for truth, justice and the American way!    
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		|  08-16-2009, 06:34 PM | #2 |  
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				 | My Mother told me as a young child that if you have nothing good to say ......  Well you know the rest, I hope ! 
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		|  08-16-2009, 06:45 PM | #3 |  
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				 | I Cast Ye into the Pit of Despair.....(otherwise known as the Political Forum) |  
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		|  08-17-2009, 11:18 AM | #4 |  
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				 | Wow--he never made it past private. Geez--how high up the E grade ladder should someone advance in a two year hitch--staff sergeant?    
So he was drunk when his plane crashed--I was around when it happened. I don't remember ever reading that he was FLYING the plane--so he was drunk--so what?
 
The man has committed enough sins in his life without anyone needing to manufacture a few more. |  
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		|  08-17-2009, 01:16 PM | #5 |  
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				 | It was an Olds sedan, not a limo, that went into the pond.  Back then very few bodies were autopsied.  He wasn't taking her home, they were all staying at the same place I believe.  And you can imagine why the Kopechne family has kept quiet all these years, and it wasn't the money, it was the fact that their hard partying daughter was in a cottage on Chappy with three married men and two other singles girls.  True courage was the grace and humilty the Kopechnes showed by not giving into media requests for comments knowing the outcome would be worse for them in that day and age.  I thought you were drafted for two years and the minimum enlistment was for three years.
 And he has been told, which now is a moot point, not to come back into more than one restaurant, because of his physically agressive nature with waitresses.  And he is not the only senator to have that said to them.
 
 I am fairly conservative, but voted for him the last time.  He is dying.  Let him have his peace.
 
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		|  08-17-2009, 01:31 PM | #6 |  
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				 | This thread is so full of hate.
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		|  08-17-2009, 01:37 PM | #7 |  
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	Its such a non issue now.Quote: 
	
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					Originally Posted by spence  This thread is so full of hate.
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		|  08-17-2009, 02:40 PM | #8 |  
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					Originally Posted by spence  This thread is so full of hate.
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 |  That is all that is being practised nowadays...the politics of Hate, regardless of party affiliations...kinda sad...
 
and is there any resolve?
 
Even if you agree to disagree, you will get hit by a truck...
Sounds Reasonable: 
 A U.S. Marine squad was marching north of Fallujah when they came upon
 an   Iraqi terrorist, badly injured and unconscious. On the opposite
 side of   the road was an American Marine in a similar but less serious
 state. The  Marine was conscious and alert and as first aid was given to both
 men,  the  squad leader asked the injured Marine what had happened.
 
 The Marine reported, "I was heavily armed and moving north along the
 highway here, and coming south was a heavily armed insurgent. We saw
 each other and both took cover in the ditches along the road. I
 yelled to him  that Saddam Hussein was a miserable, lowlife scum bag who got what
 he deserved, and he yelled back that Ted Kennedy is a fat,
 good-for-nothing, left  wing liberal drunk who doesn't know how to drive.
 So I said  Osama  Bin Laden dresses and acts like a frigid, mean-spirited lesbian!
 
 He retaliated by yelling, "Oh yeah? Well, so does Nancy Pelosi!"
 
 "And, there we were, in the middle of the road, shaking hands, when a  truck hit us."
 
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		|  08-17-2009, 03:26 PM | #9 |  
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					Originally Posted by Karl F  Sounds Reasonable:
 A U.S. Marine squad was marching north of Fallujah when they came upon
 an   Iraqi terrorist, badly injured and unconscious. On the opposite
 side of   the road was an American Marine in a similar but less serious
 state. The  Marine was conscious and alert and as first aid was given to both
 men,  the  squad leader asked the injured Marine what had happened.
 
 The Marine reported, "I was heavily armed and moving north along the
 highway here, and coming south was a heavily armed insurgent. We saw
 each other and both took cover in the ditches along the road. I
 yelled to him  that Saddam Hussein was a miserable, lowlife scum bag who got what
 he deserved, and he yelled back that Ted Kennedy is a fat,
 good-for-nothing, left  wing liberal drunk who doesn't know how to drive.
 So I said  Osama  Bin Laden dresses and acts like a frigid, mean-spirited lesbian!
 
 He retaliated by yelling, "Oh yeah? Well, so does Nancy Pelosi!"
 
 "And, there we were, in the middle of the road, shaking hands, when a  truck hit us."
 
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		|  08-17-2009, 04:34 PM | #10 |  
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				 | The joke is most excellent    
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		|  08-17-2009, 04:47 PM | #11 |  
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				 | Very funny joke!!
 You see, Spence and I can agree on a few things,,,..
 
 On topic, though, yes the whole NE is filled with corrupt politicians, Ted Kennedy may have been one, but whatever happened, the system of laws we must have faith in, did not find him guilty and that's that.
 
 The old guy has cancer and will be answering to the only one that matters soon enough, for what he has actually done.
 
 Let the Old Fart die in peace.........
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		|  08-17-2009, 04:50 PM | #12 |  
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				 | The irony is that among Republican  Senators, Ted Kennedy is one of the most respected in the US Senate. Simply because he has fought so hard his entire life for what he believed.
 
But he's a dying man so let's kick him while he's down.    
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		|  08-17-2009, 05:51 PM | #13 |  
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				 | I love that joke.  I will tell it to my army vet buddy at coffee tomorrow so he can tell it to his group session buddies. |  
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		|  08-17-2009, 06:46 PM | #14 |  
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					Originally Posted by Cool Beans  whatever happened, the system of laws we must have faith in, did not find him guilty and that's that. 
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		|  08-17-2009, 08:24 PM | #15 |  
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					Originally Posted by Mike P  A very common misconception--in truth, he was found guilty of leaving the scene of a fatal accident by the courts, and given a suspended sentence. |  so he was was charged and sentenced to what the courts deemed necessary. Im definitely not agreeing with the outcome... but,,, the laws the law.. He prolly should be behind bars, same goes for O.J. but the courts decided their fate. It has faults but it is the system our forefathers set down for us via the Constitution so I gotta stand by it..... |  
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		|  08-18-2009, 10:37 AM | #16 |  
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				 | Ive heard that he is gonna go any day now.  Its probably the only way to get the old school blue hairs that think they are royalty to vote for someone else!! |  
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		|  08-22-2009, 05:54 PM | #18 |  
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				 | The only thing in his past that bothers me is when he fought to keep Romney from appointing a succesor if Kerry won the presidential election, and now he wants it reversed so Deval can .    |  
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