Stolen Canal Bike!!!

[PRBuzz]

Originally Posted by Goose

Is there some kind of reward?

I'm figuring when it hits about $250 I'll get the bike out of my garage........post pictures on Craiglist list L&F

[Mike P]

Originally Posted by BigFish

Thanks guys! I am upset my bike was taken but at this point if I saw someone on it all I would do is hold them and call the cops and let them handle it! I do not think I will see the bike again and am positive the thief stripped its identity aka the baskets and skateboard deck and pvc pipe so he could more easily unload it! I am already onto ordering another bike and will have it completely rigged like the other one the weekend I return from Cutty! A yardsale junker would not hold my weight plus my gears weight plus fish.....so rather than deal with any more headaches such as the bent rims I have had, the new bike will come with the HD rims and I will be good to go!

Trust me if I caught the guy in the act....well......lets just say he would be lucky to walk with a limp the rest of his life....if he could walk at all after I was through beating him within an inch of his miserable life! Its gone baby gone! I have moved on!

I would like to again thank you all for your support, your kind words and your generous offers! See you on the Ditch a week from Monday!!!

There's two problems with holding the guy for the cops, Larry. First and foremost--you can't do it legally. You can't detain someone for the police in Mass or make a "citizen's arrest" for a property crime. Even if the value of the bike is more than $250. The guy can pedal away and there isn't anything you can legally do to stop him. He isn't in the act of stealing your bike, and you don't know whether he's the guy who stole it.

Secondly, the police have no probable cause to arrest him for anything, even if you can ID it positively as your bike. You can't prove he was the thief, and you can't even prove that he knowingly received stolen property. The Bourne Police Department will not arrest him based on that, and they may not even be willing to order him to return it to you. I don't think that they have that legal authority. You have no proof of ownership--can you prove that it is the exact bike you owned and not just one that looks identical?

Don't throw good money after bad by getting yourself into a legal scrape that will force you to hire a lawyer.

When you get your new bike, have your name, address and phone number etched onto the frame somewhere where it's not readily visible. This will allow you to prove ownership down the road if someone steals it and you see it being ridden somewhere. Some police departments do this, and most bike shops will do it.

[piemma]

Larry if there is a reward being posted I'm with Afterhours and I'll kick in a $50

[UserRemoved1]

HAHA! POW

Originally Posted by Slingah

if you forgot to strap it down and lost it on the highway...you can tell us...it's okay....

[Raven]

i asked my former neighborhood friendly police officer all those questions!!!


can i detain someone if i catch them in the act. NO
you mean you cannot make a citizen's arrest until you get here? NO

well, i can certainly take his picture with my Camera? i said.
yes but that will not prove anything he said.........

I was totally AMAZED at how much leeway the thief gets....
and how little you can legally do when Catching them in the act.

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so yes identification is the key ,,,
so make a couple of wooden dowel message holding plugs
and insert them into the handle bars.

Etch Bigfish all over the damn thing....LOL

[JohnR]

shows up in the darndest places

[BigFish]

BF go Cutty!!! (To be spoken like ET when he says..."ET go Hoommme"!

[Rockport24]

Originally Posted by JohnR

shows up in the darndest places

HAHAHAHAHAHAH!! that is funny chit John!

[MAKAI]

So if I may extrapolate to our members familiar with law. You come home from work and find some punk raping your daughter. Are we supposed to call the police and wait until he is through ? Or do we cowboy up ? Seems our laws are for the protection of the perp and not the victim.
We are not what we once were. When did America become so lame ?
Are we not now just an irrelevant debating society ?

I will not be meekly shepherded to the left.

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by MAKAI

So if I may extrapolate to our members familiar with law. You come home from work and find some punk raping your daughter. Are we supposed to call the police and wait until he is through ? Or do we cowboy up ? Seems our laws are for the protection of the perp and not the victim.
We are not what we once were. When did America become so lame ?
Are we not now just an irrelevant debating society ?

I will not be meekly shepherded to the left.

I would beat up first and answer questions later (probably followed up with my one allowed call to Mike).

[FishermanTim]

Or better yet, what if I go and steal something, ANYTHING and the owner tried to detain me. Since it is illegal for them to do this, the item is now mine and I can sue them for violating my civil rights.
That's freaking ridiculous!

If I can prove that the item someone else has is inded MY item, (I will be able to prove it) then I'm taking it back right then and there. It the person that had it wants to call the police then they will be the victim now, and will be the one who with no rights.

I guess this would be a case where 2 wrongs DO make a right, based on our idiotic legal system.

This may be a bit extreme, but in our current decline in civilization, it helps make a point.

[JohnR]

darndest places...

[BigFish]

I hear extrapolating can cause premature blindness so....go easy!

[BigFish]

$2.......more like $400.00....just ordered my new bike!! Be here when I get back from Cuttyhunk!!!! Grass does not grow under my feet!

[Rockport24]

Mike said you can't make a citizens arrest for a "property crime" a crime like a rape I'm sure you are allowed to effin kill the bastard and the police would look the other way kind of like Kevin Bacon did for Sean Penn in Mystic River

[MAKAI]

Originally Posted by BigFish

I hear extrapolating can cause premature blindness so....go easy!

You have to wear sunglasses, then you should be OK.
I think all the Laker( Am I on camera now ? ) celebs do it all the time.

[RIROCKHOUND]

I solved this problem with my local access bike by buying a pos 5.00 bike at a yard sale and fixing it up. if someone actually stole it I could give a crap, I'm out 10.00 (counting the milkcrate and pvc)

[hardbait]

hold off a day or two.if they didnt touch you r rods i bet someone was walking by and wanted a faster way home. sorry to hear about the bike. maybe cutty will make up for it.

[FishermanTim]

Originally Posted by JohnR

darndest places...

That's a good one!

Thanks for the laugh!

[Adam_777]

So if you see your bike just steal it back.They won't be able to prove you stole it.

[Green Light]

I am sorry Larry. I know what that feels like.
I had two bikes stolen on me..and both times I found them very close by.
Both times, inside jobs.

Are there any webcams that point to the canal? May be there is a video "object recognition" program.

I hope you find you bike. The best of luck.

[hardbait]

LARRY SEE IF YOU CAN GET A DUALLY REAREND ON YOUR NEW BIKE.

[Swimmer]

Originally Posted by Mike P

There's two problems with holding the guy for the cops, Larry. First and foremost--you can't do it legally. You can't detain someone for the police in Mass or make a "citizen's arrest" for a property crime. Even if the value of the bike is more than $250. The guy can pedal away and there isn't anything you can legally do to stop him. He isn't in the act of stealing your bike, and you don't know whether he's the guy who stole it.

Secondly, the police have no probable cause to arrest him for anything, even if you can ID it positively as your bike. You can't prove he was the thief, and you can't even prove that he knowingly received stolen property. The Bourne Police Department will not arrest him based on that, and they may not even be willing to order him to return it to you. I don't think that they have that legal authority. You have no proof of ownership--can you prove that it is the exact bike you owned and not just one that looks identical?

Don't throw good money after bad by getting yourself into a legal scrape that will force you to hire a lawyer.

When you get your new bike, have your name, address and phone number etched onto the frame somewhere where it's not readily visible. This will allow you to prove ownership down the road if someone steals it and you see it being ridden somewhere. Some police departments do this, and most bike shops will do it.

Being in possession of recently stolen property, is in fact receiving stolen property, a felony if its over $250.00. They may not arrest him/her but they would be remiss in their duties if they don't take the bike and give you a day or so to bring in the receipt with the serial numbers on it to prove its yours. Police don't need a warrant to arrest someone for a felony. If the person who has the bike isn't forthcoming about who he bought it from then he could be summons into a court. This is fairly common. I wouldn't let anyone ride off on it if I was sure its mine. You don't have to touch the person, just hold onto the bike until you or someone can summons the authorities. MikeP I have never disagreed with you before with your post, but I do with some of the above.

[ThrowingTimber]

Did they get the my little pony collection you keep in the basket too? How about the pelican? Sucks Larry sorry for your loss. If someone took my bike they'd bust their ass! Things a death trap!
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[Redsoxticket]

Larry setup the steering like that of the bike at the Barnstable fair.
For those that don't know the bike turns in the opposite direction of which you intend to steer it.
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[ProfessorM]

Come on Slingha , give the big galoot his bike back.

[Slingah]

Originally Posted by ProfessorM

Come on Slingha , give the big galoot his bike back.

Joe has it not me.....
I'm jUnK.......

[ProfessorM]

me too, daughter just dragged me out for a bike ride

[vineyardblues]

My money is on his wife
She return it when he gets a job

[surfkaster]

Larry,
I would totally try a setup...I would do the same exact thing with your new bike, but this time be hiding somewhere waiting. The satisfaction in my mind would be worth it. I think it would work too, might take a few times but...
As far as Mass law goes, I love this land...but our laws are too liberal, and other than the fact that it pays the bills I could never swear to an oath that would protect a scumbag! Call me a hick but where I come from if someone does something wrong they pay.

Here is a funny little trespassing story for you guys. When I was a school boy (in the 80's) we had this little old lady that lived in a turqoius green trailer. And as we would roam the neighborhood on our bikes just doing things kids do, (back then) not (nowadays), if we would cut across her lawn, she would stick her barrel of her salt shotgun out the window and take shots at us!!! I got hit once and let me tell you it stings like a sun of a @#$%$! It came to the point where we would do it on purpose just to see if she could hit us...lol
Anyways, she never got in trouble and we didn't cut her lawn any more...that's how things were back then, and I wish some things were still the same.
What can ya say, I guess that person will just get there's one day, what goes around comes around!