anyone look at The Cup standings - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

inTHERAPY · 08-23-2011, 08:49 PM

Upon registration an angler must declare either a club affiliation or no affiliation.

JohnR · 08-23-2011, 09:38 PM

Steve08753 · 08-24-2011, 07:17 PM

I'm glad someone else has noticed this obvious infraction of the rules.I have been informed that this individual was recently allowed to join a team with less then 8 weeks remaining to the CUP. I hope that Team Jersey Shore complains as loud as they should, they are in a good position to hold on this year and they are on the verge of being cheated out of it.

Sea Dangles · 08-24-2011, 08:23 PM

I was bummed they switched venues again,last year my best night at the canal was the night of the party.The ride back from Falmouth will suck by car...

Clammer · 08-24-2011, 08:36 PM

ALl Tournaments S U C K ><><<

niko · 08-24-2011, 08:43 PM

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ALl Tournaments S U C K ><><<

My sentiments exactly
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bloocrab · 08-24-2011, 08:45 PM

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ALl Tournaments S U C K

I should have married a tournament...

WESTPORTMAFIA · 08-24-2011, 08:58 PM

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I should have married a tournament...

Lol
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WoodyCT · 08-24-2011, 09:47 PM

If OTW can profit from letting him in, then he's in.

Their tourney, their rules, they can break them if doing so benefits them.

What Clammer said, and the same for that striper killing fish wrapper.
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Clammer · 08-24-2011, 09:48 PM

Gilly ,

Ya Got Married ........ kiss that goodbye ><<lOL

Mike P · 08-24-2011, 10:45 PM

Let's see if my little note on the Cup's Facebook wall stays up.

WESTPORTMAFIA · 08-24-2011, 10:54 PM

Wasn't he in already by himself? How would otw profit more if he is on a team.? Just asking and not being a prick as I ask myself the same question in how did he end up on a team.

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Originally Posted by WoodyCT

If OTW can profit from letting him in, then he's in.

Their tourney, their rules, they can break them if doing so benefits them.

What Clammer said, and the same for that striper killing fish wrapper.
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Clammer · 08-24-2011, 10:58 PM

OK I LOOKED ;;

JUST another reason TOURNAMENTS SUCK >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>BUT IMO ITS a stupid move on there part ....I,ll bet there are a bunch of fisherman will tell them to stick it next year .
But the rumors I,ve heard on a proposed reduction [changing ]of bass regulations ....may signal the end of the useless killing

MarshCappa · 08-25-2011, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike P

Let's see if my little note on the Cup's Facebook wall stays up.

It's still there. Good post.

Nebe · 08-25-2011, 11:06 AM

Poof!

timmah · 08-25-2011, 11:31 AM

I'm changing my affiliation to to Team Striper cuz we suck.

nightfighter · 08-25-2011, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike P

Let's see if my little note on the Cup's Facebook wall stays up.

Care to share it for those of us not signed into the social network sites?

tysdad115 · 08-25-2011, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by nightfighter

Care to share it for those of us not signed into the social network sites?

Here's Mike's quote, well put as usual:

With all due respect, if it's true that Greg Myerson was allowed to join Team Striper after not registering as a club member initially, your tournament has lost all credibility with a lot of anglers. The rule is pretty clear: Upon registration an angler must declare either a club affiliation or no affiliation. I see nothing that allows an "undeclared" angler to declare an affiliation with less than a month after the tournament.

JohnR · 08-25-2011, 11:50 AM

In the past, we have had a couple instances of anglers go from undeclared to Team S-B at the early part of the tournament and well before fish were weighed in. So there is some precedence. I'm sure other teams have hit people up over time too.

I guess my question would be more when this occurred. Early in the tournament I don't see an issue.

Mike P · 08-25-2011, 12:13 PM

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In the past, we have had a couple instances of anglers go from undeclared to Team S-B at the early part of the tournament and well before fish were weighed in. So there is some precedence. I'm sure other teams have hit people up over time too.

I guess my question would be more when this occurred. Early in the tournament I don't see an issue.

I don't know, but his earlier 61 and very high 50 aren't in the total for TS, and he's not listed as affiliated for those fish in the Angler of the Year standings.

Let's say, best case scenario, he decided to throw in with TS before he caught the record. It still sets a bad precedent. This isn't pro sports, where teams can trade up to a trade deadline. It allows for a team that's lagging in the standings to actively recruit. If someone can be unaffiliated and join a team in mid-tournament, what's to stop someone from switching teams? Or other teams from raiding other rosters for the last big push?

JohnR · 08-25-2011, 12:23 PM

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I don't know, but his earlier 61 and very high 50 aren't in the total for TS, and he's not listed as affiliated for those fish in the Angler of the Year standings.

Let's say, best case scenario, he decided to throw in with TS before he caught the record. It still sets a bad precedent. This isn't pro sports, where teams can trade up to a trade deadline. It allows for a team that's lagging in the standings to actively recruit. If someone can be unaffiliated and join a team in mid-tournament, what's to stop someone from switching teams? Or other teams from raiding other rosters for the last big push?

I agree - our instance was when someone went from unaffiliated to Team S-B - not switching teams. And those instances happened very early on in the tourney.

Sea Dangles · 08-25-2011, 12:25 PM

Early or late I don't see where there would be a difference. As long as it wasn't after he caught the 81. I spoke with Greg at the cup last year and he had already said he would join Team Striper this year. Apparently that was the decision he made, much to the chagrin of other teams.

I enjoy the party and talking with folks I don't get to see too often but I too think the tournament is lacking in some areas.Art, tog are showing,see you at the Eddy.

WESTPORTMAFIA · 08-25-2011, 12:28 PM

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I'm changing my affiliation to to Team Striper cuz we suck.

piemma · 08-25-2011, 12:38 PM

It appears to me that OTW has finally shot themselves dead with the Cup. This is a inexcusable. Now we will have recruiting, payoffs, etc.

Seriously, I joined the first Cup in 06 because I thought it would be like the old Schaefer Tournament that I fished in the 70s. This will be the last year they will see my money. It just has turned into a joke.

BMEUPSCOTTY · 08-25-2011, 12:44 PM

ALL tourneys don't suck... Some tourneys may suck... More like some of the people in the tourneys suck.
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Mike P · 08-25-2011, 12:47 PM

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It appears to me that OTW has finally shot themselves dead with the Cup. This is a inexcusable. Now we will have recruiting, payoffs, etc.

Well, Paul, we have that already, in the off-season.

I'd really like to think that OTW would have a problem with guys switching sides after the fact. Going from no club to club? That's one thing, but even so, there should be a cut-off point. I don't think that anyone at OTW is debating that Greg was still unaffiliated when he weighed in his two earlier big fish. Weigh one fish in, that's it. You're committed to whatever status you had at registration.

As far as the Schaeffer Cup goes, just thinking back on the history of the Striper Cup, I don't think that a legitimate "club", as most fishermen would define a fishing club, has ever won it, and that includes us. RISAA came the closest. Anglers join established clubs for a variety of reasons, competition being only one of those.

The Dad Fisherman · 08-25-2011, 01:11 PM

Even if he joins a team after the fact, then anything weighed in prior to you declaring a team should not count. Only fish caught going forward

JackK · 08-25-2011, 01:19 PM

I didn't bother with the cup this year... Had fun last year, & that was enough for me... But I heard from a bunch of people last year at Striperfest that Mr. Myerson said he'd be fishing Team Striper this year, and I found it interesting that at the beginning of the contest he wasn't listed as a club affiliate. Has OTW said anything about this? Could this theoretically be something as simple as a paperwork flub?

Not trying to

, just curious and trying to remain unbiased.

Sea Dangles · 08-25-2011, 01:23 PM

Armchair anglers are now telling OTW how to run their tournament; once a fish is weighed in....anything weighed prior to club afiliation...

Keep em coming,it's the nature of the beast. At least the Cap of Team Stock ASSessment was forward enough to admit his team was granted the same privelege. Albeit in a different time frame.Proof that tournaments bring out the worst in people. I have NEVER been involved in a tournament where I have not seen cheating firsthand.

Go Clammah!

JohnR · 08-25-2011, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

Armchair anglers are now telling OTW how to run their tournament; once a fish is weighed in....anything weighed prior to club afiliation...

Keep em coming,it's the nature of the beast. At least the Cap of Team Stock ASSessment was forward enough to admit his team was granted the same privelege. Albeit in a different time frame.Proof that tournaments bring out the worst in people. I have NEVER been involved in a tournament where I have not seen cheating firsthand.

Go Clammah!

So you'll include yourself in the Armchair Anglers Symposium

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I have never been involved in a Tournament you haven't had a quip against.