WTB Allstar 1088 - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

Ryan560 · 10-02-2011, 05:32 PM

Like the title says I'm looking for an all star 1088 wrapped spinning. Thanks

Ryan560 · 10-03-2011, 05:58 PM

I know these are outta production but someone has gotta have one tucked away they don't use,anybody?

nightfighter · 10-03-2011, 06:39 PM

Not an Allstar.... but here is the listing from Clogston who I bought it from in 2008. Lightly used as a backup. 100.00

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Batson SW1088 (rated 1-4 oz, good eel/plug rod) wrapped by MikeCC. Spinning. 22" from butt to bottom of real seat. Basic black wraps with striper decal. Cork tape handle. Fuji hardloy guides and fuji seat. In like new condition. I think I paid around $150 and its only been used two or three times (just kind fits between two other rods that I have so doesn't get much use). Very highly recommended rod on this site.

BigBo · 10-03-2011, 07:02 PM

The old Allstar 1088 were rated 2-5oz

Ryan560 · 10-03-2011, 09:50 PM

Nightfighter I'm not too familiar with the SW1088 batson, I'm going to read up more on it and see if it's a good fit for what I'm looking for. I'm basically looking for a 9' rod with plenty of backbone for breachways, and maybe something I can toss riggies with occasionally in rocky areas.

1dozenraw · 10-04-2011, 03:58 AM

Do a search in the rodbuilding forums here and on the other website. There have been many threads started about AllStar 1088 and 1208 replacements since they were discontinued.

Sea Dangles · 10-04-2011, 06:54 AM

I have a rogue that was rewrapped by CMS with all SiC guides that fits the breachway duties.Rated 1-5 and a great rod for big wood. Landed a 45# fish at C-town with no issues.Let me know if there is interest.

The Dad Fisherman · 10-04-2011, 07:22 AM

Don't think the Batson will fit the bill for throwing riggies....

BigBo · 10-04-2011, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Don't think the Batson will fit the bill for throwing riggies....

An SW1089 would probably handle it. Rated 1-6oz. I have one and the rating is pretty accurate. 6oz might be pushing it a bit, but 5oz is doable.

1dozenraw · 10-04-2011, 07:47 AM

The older, NLA SU1088 was rated 2-5 I believe. This would be full 9'. The new RS 108x blanks are all 8'10" for shipping.

Nebe · 10-04-2011, 07:58 AM

You was a lamiglass fiberglass 1213m. You just don't know it yet

Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device

The Dad Fisherman · 10-04-2011, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by BigBo

An SW1089 would probably handle it. Rated 1-6oz. I have one and the rating is pretty accurate. 6oz might be pushing it a bit, but 5oz is doable.

I'm talking the 1088....I have one and I didn't like the way it threw eels.....riggies are heavier so I would think it would be worse.

1dozenraw · 10-04-2011, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Nebe

You was a lamiglass fiberglass 1213m. You just don't know it yet

Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device

WAY OFF TOPIC!!!

bart · 10-04-2011, 10:19 AM

I loved my allstar 1088. almost wish I never sold it. great rod for big plugs and rigged slug-gos.

Mike P · 10-04-2011, 10:49 AM

I have a 1088, but to be perfectly honest, I'm not sure whether it's an All Star, or a USA-made Rainshadow SU. Mike CC built it, and he had both blanks in stock at the time, I believe.

Ryan560 · 10-05-2011, 12:27 AM

Thanks for the replies and information folks.
Nebe- thought the 1213M was a chunking rod? I like the idea of having a fiberglass rod on the jetty however would be a little more durable.. That's another reason I was looking into the allstar 1088, supposed to be a tough blank..

Mike P- are you looking to part with the 1088 you have? Are you anywhere near ri, or ct? Also is there a way to tell the difference between the 2 blanks from what I can comprehend the SU and allstar are near identical..

Bart- in your opinion did the allstar 1088 have good sensitivity when throwing the rigged sluggos?

Thanks

RIROCKHOUND · 10-05-2011, 09:17 AM

1088 and 1213 are apples and grenade launchers....

one is a sensitive, stiff graphite, the other is a fiberglass cannon....
not just for chunking, but you need good shoulders to plug it for a tide.... lobbing and drifting at the breachways is less tiresome...

I agree w/ Nebe as it is a great, durable stick, but it is a touch long for breachways w/o some trimming...

1dozenraw · 10-05-2011, 11:28 AM

I have an AllStar 1208 with 6" cut from the butt and a Rainshadow SU1088 with 6" added to the but... Afterhours and Ditch Jigger built rods. I just shook both of them side by side. The AllStar is a tiny bit heavier than the Rainshadow and not quite as stiff, bends further down toward the butt. The Rainshadow is stiffer by a tiny bit and faster tip by just a tad... at least that's my read. Now whether one can compare the two 1088 lengthened to 1208 shortened and come to any conclusions that would hold for the 1088-1088 comparison. I can't say. But that's what I own so I figured I'd post. If it helps... good. Bioth are definitely not sticks I'd be using for bombers. Not sure how well they'd do for sluggos... have to be pretty healthy sluggos I'd think.

I also have an SW1088 Rainshadow and it is a much lighter stick with far less power and much faster action than the AllStar or SU1088.

Mike P · 10-05-2011, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by 1dozenraw

I have an AllStar 1208 with 6" cut from the butt and a Rainshadow SU1088 with 6" added to the but... Afterhours and Ditch Jigger built rods. I just shook both of them side by side. The AllStar is a tiny bit heavier than the Rainshadow and not quite as stiff, bends further down toward the butt. The Rainshadow is stiffer by a tiny bit and faster tip by just a tad... at least that's my read. Now whether one can compare the two 1088 lengthened to 1208 shortened and come to any conclusions that would hold for the 1088-1088 comparison. I can't say. But that's what I own so I figured I'd post. If it helps... good. Bioth are definitely not sticks I'd be using for bombers. Not sure how well they'd do for sluggos... have to be pretty healthy sluggos I'd think.

I also have an SW1088 Rainshadow and it is a much lighter stick with far less power and much faster action than the AllStar or SU1088.

I don't think that Ditch Jigger built that rod, or even sold it to you.

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Originally Posted by Ryan560

Thanks for the replies and information folks.
Nebe- thought the 1213M was a chunking rod? I like the idea of having a fiberglass rod on the jetty however would be a little more durable.. That's another reason I was looking into the allstar 1088, supposed to be a tough blank..

Mike P- are you looking to part with the 1088 you have? Are you anywhere near ri, or ct? Also is there a way to tell the difference between the 2 blanks from what I can comprehend the SU and allstar are near identical..

Bart- in your opinion did the allstar 1088 have good sensitivity when throwing the rigged sluggos?

Thanks

I could be persuaded to part with it. It's very lightly fished, almost brand new. But, I'm at the Cape. Canal area. Mike CC built the rod and sold me the blank, so he might be able to tell you whether it's an All Star or Rainshadow, as it's very difficult to tell---they're practically identical, and reportedly were designed by the same guy, who joined up with Rainshadow after he left All Star. What I can say for sure is that IF it's a Rainshadow, it was one from when they were still made in the US, not China.

1dozenraw · 10-05-2011, 06:01 PM

[QUOTE=Mike P;891049]I don't think that Ditch Jigger built that rod, or even sold it to you.

OOPS.. Diggin' Jiggin" on the other site... close

BigBo · 10-05-2011, 06:17 PM

After a little digging around in my stack of stuff, I found my old Allstar blank rating sheet. Here's a listing of Saltwater blanks for reference.

Ryan560 · 10-05-2011, 10:11 PM

BigBo thanks for sharing that rating sheet, good info.
Also thanks rirockhound for the 1213 description.
Mike P don't know if I'll be heading up to the canal again this year, but if nothing else turns up I might make a road trip.

Sorry for all the questions I know this is the classified section, hate to keep clogging up this forum. I just want to end up with the right stick and not one I'd be second guessing.

bart · 10-13-2011, 10:51 AM

Ryan, sorry for the late response. I don't know if i would say it had great sensitivity when fishing slug-gos, but it was everything I wanted in a rod that would throw them. It's a fast action rod that works the slug-gos nicely. Always felt like I was working the slug the way I wanted to so in that regard, I guess yes, it was very sensitive. I had cork above the reel seat for the sole reason of working the slug-go. I would hold the cork and rest the butt of the rod on my fore-arm. Had great results doing this. So if you're looking for a rod to fish slug-gos with I would definitely recommend it. Another rod to consider would be a GLoomis 1084. It's also nine feet, but not as fast (still pretty fast) as an allstar. Also much more expensive, but they have a great warranty...

Ryan560 · 10-13-2011, 05:41 PM

Thanks for the response Bart, I'm definitely gonna hold out for an allstar 1088
sounds like the perfect 9' for what I want to be using

bart · 10-14-2011, 12:25 PM

If you can't find one, Sea Dangle's Rogue seems like a good option if he's willing to part with it. Good luck...

Sea Dangles · 10-14-2011, 03:25 PM

1st $100 steals it...

Ryan560 · 10-14-2011, 08:40 PM

Thanks gonna keep looking for a bit, also would like to find a allstar 1208 wrapped spinning. I have a block island trip coming up at the end of the month and I really don't want to be out gunned with my xsra 1205-2

Sea Dangles · 10-16-2011, 07:26 AM

1205 is seldom out gunned. I would only recommend my rod if throwing big plugs was the application.

Mike P · 10-16-2011, 08:43 AM

I've fished both the AS 1208 and the XRA 1205. They're both big guns. The XRA, being a more moderate taper, does more things than the 1208. Unless you're fishing moving water, like the Canal, the 1208 sucks for pencil poppers, for one example. If you throw eels on it, you'll tear some off on the cast, too, especially if you use braid.

Ryan560 · 10-16-2011, 05:54 PM

Mine is the 2 piece 1205 factory version and a whole different animal than the 1205, seems like 2-2.5oz. is the sweet spot anything 3 oz. and up feels like I have to lob it. From what I gather it is nothing like a one piece 1205. I had trouble landing a 30" bass in the canal last year with this rod, seriously lacks backbone. It does well pencil popping and plugging open beaches but any kinda rocks forget it..