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04-28-2012, 11:46 AM
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Very Grumpy bay man
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Rhode Island
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1 lure in armed forces survival kit
Pilots have a ditch kit. There is one lure and only one that will catch fish in every ocean in any conditions and without a rod and reel. It is in their kits
Let's have some guesses. I'll give the right answer after 10 posts
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No boat, back in the suds.  
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04-28-2012, 11:50 AM
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Seldom Seen
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 10,543
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white bucktail
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“Americans have the right and advantage of being armed, unlike the people of other countries, whose leaders are afraid to trust them with arms.” – James Madison.
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04-28-2012, 11:52 AM
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Very Grumpy bay man
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Rhode Island
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It's over. You old warrior you!!!
Ross is absolutely correct. White bucktail is in every pilots ditch kit with 100 feet of line. It will catch fish in every ocean.
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No boat, back in the suds.
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04-28-2012, 11:59 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 24
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a can opener that doubles as a lure/spoon?
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04-28-2012, 12:01 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2010
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lol never mind
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04-28-2012, 12:12 PM
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Seldom Seen
Join Date: May 2001
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Close to a dozen other uses besides fishing taught to us during evasive/survival training as well. But it would take me awhile.to remember half of them....
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“Americans have the right and advantage of being armed, unlike the people of other countries, whose leaders are afraid to trust them with arms.” – James Madison.
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04-28-2012, 01:19 PM
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Join Date: May 2010
Location: South Central
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mine worked good today  |
something clever and related to fishing
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04-28-2012, 02:16 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: RI
Posts: 5,704
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If it were up to me that lure would be a 1/2oz Kastmaster.I've caught EVERYTHING on it between the coast of RI and Brownsville TX.
Btw the whitebucktail is not always the default.Tins were included in many kits including the MRE.
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04-28-2012, 03:05 PM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Somewhere between OOB & west of Watch Hill
Posts: 35,270
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Yep - white bucktail jig
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~Fix the Bait~ ~Pogies Forever~
Striped Bass Fishing - All Stripers
Kobayashi Maru Election - there is no way to win.
Apocalypse is Coming:
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04-28-2012, 06:41 PM
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Canceled
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: vt
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And now for a tougher question, whose jig did the Navy originally select to be included in the survival kit?
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Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
Lets Go Darwin
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04-28-2012, 07:35 PM
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Chris Blouin
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Warren, RI
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To be more specific it's a upperman or bean style white bucktail with red thread.
Bill upperman and his brother had the government contract for many years.
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04-28-2012, 09:24 PM
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Canceled
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: vt
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chefchris401
To be more specific it's a upperman or bean style white bucktail with red thread.
Bill upperman and his brother had the government contract for many years.
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Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
Lets Go Darwin
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04-28-2012, 09:27 PM
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Chris Blouin
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Warren, RI
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I love the history of our sport.
I was over an old salts house over the winter he told us te whole story of how it came about, then went into the basement and retrieved some of the first run of uppermans every made for the military.
Really cool to see the history of it all.
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04-28-2012, 11:33 PM
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Chris Blouin
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Warren, RI
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heres a cool piece i found:
No greater tribute has ever been paid to a lure than that which the Navy bestowed on the Upperman bucktail jig during World War II. The Navy tested every conceivable kind of lure for its survival kits and finally selected the jigs made by the Upperman brothers, Bill and Morrie, of Atlantic City, because they caught more fish than anything else. All a sailor or pilot adrift at sea had to do to catch fish was tie a bucktail to a handline and then jig it by dancing it up and down in the water. In a bobbing sea, fish could even be caught by tying the handline to the raft and letting the waves do the jigging.
Bill Upperman was not surprised that he and his brother won the Navy contract because, as Morrie's widow, Dorothy, recalls, "They always said it was the lure that would catch the most fish in the least amount of time." Mrs. Upperman recalls that for 11 years her husband held the New Jersey state record for striped bass, a 63-pound, 10-ounce striper caught on an Upperman bucktail.
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04-30-2012, 06:08 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Reading Mass/Newburyport/merrimack river
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Quote:
Originally Posted by piemma
It's over. You old warrior you!!!
Ross is absolutely correct. White bucktail is in every pilots ditch kit with 100 feet of line. It will catch fish in every ocean.
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fresh water too.. anyone that has been fishing more than a handfull of years should know that one.. |
A good run is better than a bad stand!
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04-30-2012, 01:07 PM
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Red Eye Jedi
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: East Facing
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jointed pikie?
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04-30-2012, 03:15 PM
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President - S-B Chapter - Kelly Clarkson Fan Club
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Rowley
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Anybody know the weight of the standard issue bucktail? I have no idea, but guessing 1/2 oz.
Be cool to know what other items were in the ditchkit.
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04-30-2012, 03:53 PM
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Very Grumpy bay man
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 10,824
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I had a survival kit while I was active duty and I think it was 1/2oz.
Ross, you remember???
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No boat, back in the suds.
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04-30-2012, 05:23 PM
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Seldom Seen
Join Date: May 2001
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Not sure.... But my first thought was heavier, like 1oz. . A half oz. wouldn't get down enough from a raft in the Pacific.
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“Americans have the right and advantage of being armed, unlike the people of other countries, whose leaders are afraid to trust them with arms.” – James Madison.
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04-30-2012, 05:25 PM
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Seldom Seen
Join Date: May 2001
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Quote:
Originally Posted by piemma
It's over. You old warrior you!!!
Ross is absolutely correct. White bucktail is in every pilots ditch kit with 100 feet of line. It will catch fish in every ocean.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rockfish9
fresh water too.. anyone that has been fishing more than a handfull of years should know that one..
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Thanks guys..... One calls me old. The other calls me master of the obvious....  |
“Americans have the right and advantage of being armed, unlike the people of other countries, whose leaders are afraid to trust them with arms.” – James Madison.
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04-30-2012, 05:39 PM
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Seldom Seen
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The News and Courier - Google News Archive Search
Good article from 1964. Picture is what I remember still issued in the early 80s.
If you scan right through the pages you will see a pic of Mantle, one of Tony Conigliaro, and a wealth of MLB greats in stories and boxscores... Very interesting that Conigliaro was in left and Yaz was in center.......
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“Americans have the right and advantage of being armed, unlike the people of other countries, whose leaders are afraid to trust them with arms.” – James Madison.
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04-30-2012, 09:04 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Monmouth University, NJ
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i was thinking GRS troller. should fit nicely in a survival kit. haha
great plug though
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04-30-2012, 09:23 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: A village some where
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete F.
We need some tougher questions
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Impossible with google.
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07-14-2012, 10:52 AM
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Secretsquirrel
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: South Shore , MA
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I was going through my stuff today, and I found one. No idea how I ever had it or why.
The bucktail is still in the package and I don't have the heart to take the kit apart.
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07-14-2012, 11:04 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2004
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Every year Mike is always near the time of the leaderboard for the Conn. Surfcasters.
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07-14-2012, 12:26 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Libtardia
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when my grandfather was in Guadal Canal, the lure of choice was a hand grenade.
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07-14-2012, 01:10 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Southern RI
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Originally Posted by bart
jointed pikie?
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Excellent guess!!!  |
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07-20-2012, 07:41 PM
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Secretsquirrel
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: South Shore , MA
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Last picture. meant to post this last week for those interested and got caught up
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