sharks are back! - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

chapinfisherman · 06-20-2012, 04:30 PM

seeeeeeee yaaaaa later seals!

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Rappin Mikey · 06-20-2012, 04:40 PM

Unfortunately they can't even make a dent in the population. We need to go back to a regulated hunt. Probably won't happen until a couple kayakers or little kids swimming in the second wave get killed. Probably won't happen after that either.

Raven · 06-20-2012, 05:26 PM

shame

Sgt_Nutz · 06-20-2012, 09:15 PM

I think the state abolished the bounty on seals in 1962. Any one from here remember those days? Or know someone who does? Wonder how the fishing was back then.
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zimmy · 06-20-2012, 09:53 PM

H.R 2578 passed the house today. It very likely won't pass the senate or get signed... but in any case, one section allows for selective killing of california sea lions in the Columbia to protect salmon in the fish ladders. \
Most improtant to me is that it returns Hatteras ORV management back to 2007 regs, which aren't great, but are light years better than what we currently have. Keeping my fingers dialing to the senators.

likwid · 06-21-2012, 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Rappin Mikey

Unfortunately they can't even make a dent in the population. We need to go back to a regulated hunt.

Because nature doesn't know how to take care of itself?
Its a wonder the world made it so long without us!

Oh wait....

JohnR · 06-21-2012, 07:37 AM

Right on queue

Jackbass · 06-21-2012, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by likwid

Because nature doesn't know how to take care of itself?
Its a wonder the world made it so long without us!

Oh wait....

Aren't humans part of the natural order of things? Unfortunately as Alpha Predators. We lack the ability to control ourselves. Because unlike the animal kingdom we do not hunt for need. We put a price on everything.
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WoodyCT · 06-21-2012, 08:30 AM

We're too smart for our own good and will continue to screw up the natural world as long as humans populate Earth.

Mother Nature yearns for a meteor, super volcano, or global plague to check the population of the most destructive species of organism on Earth.
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Clogston29 · 06-21-2012, 02:04 PM

didn't we effectively cause the seal's southern migration and over population by overfishing herring, cod and other forage fish to the north.

nature will eventually take care of things, but not necessarily in a way we want. best case scenario is disease, but that would likely only thin them out a bit.

sharks will never make a dent. there is no incentive for them to show up in large enough numbers to wipe out the seals. look at seal island in south africa. lots of sharks, tons of seals.

anyone who thinks that a law will be passed to kill seals, a mammal who the common person thinks is cute and can relate to, and protect a fish is dreaming. the ones i have seen do not look sick or hungry, so its a tough sell that they are even overpopulated at this point.

too bad they don't eat plovers.

zimmy · 06-21-2012, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Clogston29

so its a tough sell that they are even overpopulated at this point.

I don't think they are anywhere near carrying capacity. Right now they are mostly just a nuisance. They were there 300 years ago and they are coming back. I don't think they are anywhere near the population they are going to be in 10 years, unfortunately.

J_T_R · 06-22-2012, 12:15 AM

Unfortunately, the same laws that protect seals, also protect whales, dolphins and other marine mammals. So, the thought of an open seal season is really a pipe dream. I think that a lot of people consider the seal population a big win in conservation efforts, given the fact that their population was decimated by bounties.

likwid · 06-22-2012, 06:03 AM

As has been said, open season on seals most likely won't happen. You can go to the aquarium and see them do cute and funny things.

Folks going out and playing wild wild west shooting at them are certainly not helping either, although it should be amusing when they get busted and hung high.

chapinfisherman · 06-22-2012, 06:41 AM

how about 5 bucks a seal nose?!

OLD GOAT · 06-22-2012, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Sgt_Nutz

I think the state abolished the bounty on seals in 1962. Any one from here remember those days? Or know someone who does? Wonder how the fishing was back then.
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Yes I remember. The fishing was fantastic. Not only bass but every other fish that lives inside of Pleasant bay and other inshore embayments.
Don't forget that when the bass go south that alot of other fish stay and now when the bass leave the seals stay and wipe out anything that they can feed on.
You can't be a conservationist and allow species to be wiped out just because there not as cute as the fund raising seals.
Send some money to us and we will send you a cute picture of a cute little seal before it starts eating everything in site.

Sorry,,end of rant.

ProfessorM · 06-22-2012, 04:27 PM

I truly miss fishing Pleasant Bay in my tin boat. Cowyard was such a great place to launch and the fishing was fantastic along there and Strong Island for small boats Such a shame.
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