loop to loop?

[nightfighter]

Been experimenting with loop to loop connection between leader and spincast mono. Certainly cuts down on tying time in the dark, but my surf bag is a mess with all the leaders. Anybody got a good reason why this flyfishing technique isn't woth a try with spincasting? Using 30# to 30#.

On a negative note, I saw a guy carrying a rod and what looked like a sure schoolie up the street from my local beach club. Fish was 25 or 26" by my eye. Never known that sandy beach to have stripers, but that's another story. Got pretty pissed and, with kids in car, asking Dad why we were turning around, went back to see if I could ascertain its length. Couldn't find him, but would recognize him again, and will be sure to confront him about taking what he isn't entitled to.

How would you handle this?

[Patrick]

I guess it is possible to use a loop to loop connection but probably not the best idea. My main concern is the diameter of loops. This wouldn't be good if you wanted the loops to pass through the guides as a shock leader. Also, you have to consider wind resistance. A loop cutting through the air isn't much but when compared to your other choices, it creates a lot more resistance than just an albright knot.

The main place I've seen loops in flyfishing is for these lines where you can change the head. You have your constant shooting line and change the shooting head to the conditions. I think the main reason it's set up like that is the cost. A good fly line can cost you 40 or 50, even 60 bucks. With the loops, you aren't cutting the line. I think they are just to save money.

Now with the schoolie guy. If you see him, just start fishing with him. Maybe he isn't aware of the limits. He sounds pretty ballsy to walk down the street with an undersized fish which leads me to believe he has cajones the size of an elephant or just doesn't know the rules. I would just introduce yourself and strike up a conversation. Take control of the conversation and shoot the bull about fishing. Ask him what he thinks of the fish limits. If he doesn't know about them, just explain them. If you get the hint that he knows the limits and just doesn't care, just move off. You obviously feel strongly about the striped bass population. No need to get into a heated discussion about it.

People are a lot less tolerant these days. When you consider that you have kids killing kids over stupid junk, it's not worth getting yourself shot over.

[Jenn]

I SORT of agree with Patrick :O It certainly isnt excusable by any means...but there IS the possibility of the fact. with a lot more people trying for stripers these days its possible he may not have known (or hes just being a TOTAL JERK *ff!!! ) like I said it isnt excusable...."know before you go" .....

a friend of ours used this line before and even though that particular fish couldnt be thrown back at that point....I think they were at least embarrassed to be approached about it ( maybe think twice next time?? )

just simply say..... "hey did you know that was an illegal fish??? better hope you dont get caught with it".....

even if nothin becomes of it at least YOU can go home with a clean conscience knowing you tried.....

[JohnR]

Simple answer. On most items that you put on the terminal end of a spinning line, you should attach a barrel swivel in between. Especially with many plugs and certainly with eels, otherwise twisting can occur. Not as necessary with conventional or fly reels as the line is wound straight onto the reel...

Drop a dime to DEP when you see something like that. If you can engage in easy conversation let them know that the fish is too small but don't go out of your way to antagonize someone... Not worth being on the receiving end of a pig sticker that's been cutting bait all day long...