KayakingAfter the frequent attempts at Bribery, beatings, and simply getting towed at Sunrise - S-B opens the Kayak Forums
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I use my Hullivator on a Passat wagon with roof rails and separate the 2 thule bars by about 3.5 - 4 feet They work great,,, the piston msked it very easy to lift by 68 lb Hobie Revolution solo,