i know what your saying they come in there like they own it bright lights being loud being just idots i fish there alot and i just hate it in the summer to many idots show up if when it usally gets to annoying there i just go down the road to fresh pond rock very peaceful no lights just me and the dog andthe fish ands its a very good spot espeially after dark so next time just pack up and head down to fresh pond and enjoy a little peice of mind tight lines