When I went out the other night one of the guys I took out broke one of my rods it was a cheapy for guests so I didnt even care said dont worry about it took out another cheapy and rigged him up and off he went fishing for the rest of the night the door bell just rings its him at the door with a nice brand new 8fter I forgot all about it but I guess he didnt!! Just want to give billy props the kinda guy I like!!! and no russ this is not aimed at you those plugs you gave me took care of that job lot special you broke!!