Caught!

[afterhours]

sounds like a must read.

[Rockfish9]

dont look now but bluefish are not exactly over populated either ... dog fish anyone?

[piemma]

I can remember all we caught in 90 and 91 were Blues. One morning I caught 5 schoolies at Deep Hole. I went to a bait shop in Narr called Top of the Dock (gone now) and told the guy behind the counter that I had caught 5 schoolies. He called me a liar to my face and threw me out of the shop for spreading false rumors.
I have t think we are headed in that direction.

[Slipknot]

Myself personally , I won't be buying a book so someone can profit even further after making a ton of money from poaching stripers while also being a large part of the problem we face. Maybe he wanted to tell a story so we can learn from the past, but it's a little late for that, the writing is on the wall.

How about if someone with some brains figures out how to change the protocols so the fish don't have to be wiped out before anything is done?

[spence]

Originally Posted by Slipknot

Myself personally , I won't be buying a book so someone can profit even further after making a ton of money from poaching stripers while also being a large part of the problem we face. Maybe he wanted to tell a story so we can learn from the past, but it's a little late for that, the writing is on the wall.

The flip side is the book helps get the visibility necessary for there to be some action.

A lot of companies I work with profit from war. Nothing is perfect...

-spence

[Slipknot]

Originally Posted by piemma

I can remember all we caught in 90 and 91 were Blues. One morning I caught 5 schoolies at Deep Hole. I went to a bait shop in Narr called Top of the Dock (gone now) and told the guy behind the counter that I had caught 5 schoolies. He called me a liar to my face and threw me out of the shop for spreading false rumors.
I have t think we are headed in that direction.

I believe you
I didn't catch one bass then either

[bart]

Originally Posted by Rockfish9

dont look now but bluefish are not exactly over populated either ... dog fish anyone?

That is what I was going to say! You can normally bank on the bluefish bite in Sept through Nov to save you from a skunking where I like to fish. ONE 12lb blue for me, all season. And there was plenty of bait to draw them in..

Not saying that's a true indicator of things and definitely not in panic mode, but it seems like most made similar observations, experienced the same. I wonder if Sandy messed things up as far blues go. If next year is a repeat then I will be concerned, and will be looking to move back to the Keys...

I guess that's all for another thread, though. Or is there a correlation?

[likwid]

Originally Posted by bart

That is what I was going to say! You can normally bank on the bluefish bite in Sept through Nov to save you from a skunking where I like to fish. ONE 12lb blue for me, all season. And there was plenty of bait to draw them in..

Not saying that's a true indicator of things and definitely not in panic mode, but it seems like most made similar observations, experienced the same. I wonder if Sandy messed things up as far blues go. If next year is a repeat then I will be concerned, and will be looking to move back to the Keys...

I guess that's all for another thread, though. Or is there a correlation?

Plenty of gators from the Bridge to Nomans all season long.

[tlapinski]

Originally Posted by Rockfish9

dont look now but bluefish are not exactly over populated either ... dog fish anyone?

My thoughts exactly! I'm looking into forming a new conservation group called Bluefish Forever.

[Dick Durand]

Some of the usual spots produced very few blue fish this season, and from what I hear the 2011 class striper will be hit hard as Maryland dramatically increased its commercial limit.

[piemma]

Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^& Durand

Some of the usual spots produced very few blue fish this season, and from what I hear the 2011 class striper will be hit hard as Maryland dramatically increased its commercial limit.

I have been getting a ton of emails regarding the increase in bag limit is Maryland. WTF are they thinking??? can't the see the writing on the wall? The bass are definitely in trouble again.

Will we dodge the bullet again? I doubt it. There is increased pressure on the stocks due to more guys fishing, netting continues in some of the Southern states. poaching and black market selling is rampart.

How many fish were killed during the commercial season in Mass? A drop in the bucket compared to what happens at the canal on a blitz day. It is not one group. Comms, recs, everyone who targets Stripers will shoulder some blame if the fishery goes into the dumper, which, I believe it eventually will if the laws are not changed.

I still believe that Stripers should get game fish status. Even with that there are guys who will continue to sell on the black market until ALL the states are forced to abide by the game fish statute. Florida did it with Snook and now they have a world class fishery that was almost obliterated due to over fishing.

[baldwin]

Originally Posted by piemma

I have been getting a ton of emails regarding the increase in bag limit is Maryland. WTF are they thinking??? can't the see the writing on the wall? The bass are definitely in trouble again.
.

Yeah, they can see it. They're harvesting as many as they can before new limitations go into place.

[Mike P]

Originally Posted by piemma

I have been getting a ton of emails regarding the increase in bag limit is Maryland. WTF are they thinking??? can't the see the writing on the wall? The bass are definitely in trouble again.

Will we dodge the bullet again? I doubt it. There is increased pressure on the stocks due to more guys fishing, netting continues in some of the Southern states. poaching and black market selling is rampart.

How many fish were killed during the commercial season in Mass? A drop in the bucket compared to what happens at the canal on a blitz day. It is not one group. Comms, recs, everyone who targets Stripers will shoulder some blame if the fishery goes into the dumper, which, I believe it eventually will if the laws are not changed.

I still believe that Stripers should get game fish status. Even with that there are guys who will continue to sell on the black market until ALL the states are forced to abide by the game fish statute. Florida did it with Snook and now they have a world class fishery that was almost obliterated due to over fishing.

The minimum size limit inside Chesapeake Bay, in MD waters, is 18" overall length. So they will be hammering that 2011 YOY class sooner than we will.

Hard to say why blues are so scarce, because there isn't a big commercial market for them. It was that way in the 60s, too, when I first started fishing. A blue was something to have a drink over afterwards.

But, they had a pretty good year for both numbers and size during this year's Derby. I remember years in the late 90s/early 2000s when you could score a daily first with a 6-7 pounder.

[blue oyster]

Originally Posted by Rockfish9

dont look now but bluefish are not exactly over populated either ... dog fish anyone?

funny thing is this past season I did not catch 1 dog fish , not that's a bad thing