When is Jim in NJ

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

My last comment was that Obama apologized for the IRS scandal, and that's funny to you? Well, as usual (not always, but usually) my facts seem to be correct. A quote from Obama...

"If, in fact, IRS personnel engaged in the kind of practices that have been reported on and were intentionally targeting conservative groups, then that is outrageous, and there is no place for it, and they have to be held fully accountable, because the IRS as an independent agency requires absolute integrity and people have to have confidence that they are applying the laws in a non-partisan way. You should feel that way regardless of party."

Paul, you denied that the IRS targeted conservative groups. Obama himself doesn't seem to be denying that, so why would you deny it?

Sorry for being so mean...

No, the last comment was that you think you are fair minded, The irs targeted both lib and cons groups. More cons groups where targeted as there were more applying. While no conservative groups where denied NP status they were given extra scrutiny.

Where did I deny that the Irs targeted cons. groups?
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

No, the last comment was that you think you are fair minded, The irs targeted both lib and cons groups. More cons groups where targeted as there were more applying. While no conservative groups where denied NP status they were
given extra scrutiny.

Where did I deny that the Irs cons. groups?
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Paul, you said Obama's IRS targeted both sides. I asked for proof. You responded with insults.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Paul, you said Obama's IRS targeted both sides. I asked for proof. You responded with insults.

Just following your lead.

I just did a google search on "liberal groups targeted by the irs" and the articles said the irs used the terms emerge and Acorn - just as they used the term progressive.
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[spence]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Just following your lead.

I just did a google search on "liberal groups targeted by the irs" and the articles said the irs used the terms emerge and Acorn - just as they used the term progressive.
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No, he's trying to deflect.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

No, he's trying to deflect.
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<Sigh>. What exactly am I trying to deflect here, Spence? I said that if Christie knew about this, he should be impeached.

I'll also say this...within 24 hours of the story breaking, Christie had people fired, and said that even though he didn't know about this, it's his fault because the buck stops with him.

Has Obama ever stepped up like that? Is that how Obama handled the IRS scandal, or the failed stimulus (which he promised would keep unemployment under 8%), or the website disaster, or Benghazi? It was refreshing, at least, that Christie didn't blame George Bush.

I want this investigated, and if it turns out Christie ordered this, he should get impeached, and possibly charged with a crime. Ambulances couldn't get where they were trying to go because of this. Lives were put at risk, all for political spite. I want my side to be better than that. If he ordered this, he's unfit for public service.

[justplugit]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

I want this investigated, and if it turns out Christie ordered this, he should get impeached, and possibly charged with a crime. Ambulances couldn't get where they were trying to go because of this. Lives were put at risk, all for political spite. I want my side to be better than that. If he ordered this, he's unfit for public service.

I agree Jim, hard to believe such infantile behavior would come directly from Christie.
But if it did, he needs to have his head examined.
Having been a Prosecutor knowing the consequences and facing an election it doesn't make sense.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by justplugit

I agree Jim, hard to believe such infantile behavior would come directly from Christie.
But if it did, he needs to have his head examined.
Having been a Prosecutor knowing the consequences and facing an election it doesn't make sense.

Maybe he forgot which party he's in, because if he were a Democrat, we wouldn't be talking about this.

[scottw]

[QUOTE=Jim in CT;1028099]<Sigh>. What exactly am I trying to deflect here, Spence?

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if you want to "deflect" you could refer to anyone who criticizes Christie and the goings on in his administration as "haters"...who are full of vile hate, motivated by extremist tendencies and probably also bigots who hate fat people who can't help being who they are and then you could make condescending remarks about how the " Christie haters and bigots" are incapable of "thinking", inject a lot of meaningless phrases and unsubstantiated "facts" that for you pass as "thinking" and then mock and ridicule the "haters and bigots" who point out the lunacy of your distortion of "facts" and the obvious flaws in your "thinking"and then disappear for a while only to pop up on another thread doing and saying essentially the same thing once again....

I think that's how it works

[Jim in CT]

[QUOTE=scottw;1028234]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

<Sigh>. What exactly am I trying to deflect here, Spence?

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if you want to "deflect" you could refer to anyone who criticizes Christie and the goings on in his administration as "haters"...who are full of vile hate, motivated by extremist tendencies and probably also bigots who hate fat people who can't help being who they are and then you could make condescending remarks about how the " Christie haters and bigots" are incapable of "thinking", inject a lot of meaningless phrases and unsubstantiated "facts" that for you pass as "thinking" and then mock and ridicule the "haters and bigots" who point out the lunacy of your distortion of "facts" and the obvious flaws in your "thinking"and then disappear for a while only to pop up on another thread doing and saying essentially the same thing once again....

I think that's how it works

I think you're right. The Christie detractor are a bunch of anti-chubby bigots who can't see that Christie was trying to help the environment by getting people to walk to work.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Just following your lead.

I just did a google search on "liberal groups targeted by the irs" and the articles said the irs used the terms emerge and Acorn - just as they used the term progressive.
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So why hasn't ACORN complained about being targeted?

Spence was right to bring up Christie, and I'm glad he did, because I'd be one heck of a hypocrite if I didn't criticize him. If he knew about this, he is unfit to be POTUS. So is a woman who lied about being shot at in Kosovo when she knows damn well that never happened.

A fine state of affairs when that's our choice. I did like Christie before this. I still agree with him on the issues, but we need someone with some ethics.