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03-19-2014, 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by BigFish
Gonna be alot of Dmags around cause' nobody is gonna be able to afford to fish them?
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Sadly in his case its not the seller jacking the price at the point of sale, its what people are doing afterwards. He does have rattles in his canal pencils though.
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03-19-2014, 08:59 AM
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BigFish Bait Co.
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hanover
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I realize its not HIS fault. Its nice to have demand but that greed (on the part of the "collectors") can hurt as well.
*Collectors-people who will not fish the plugs they have due to perceived value given that the plug is brand new and still very much in production!
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Almost time to get our fish on!!! 
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03-19-2014, 03:04 PM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lakeville Ma.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by iamskippy
He does have rattles in his canal pencils though.
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Me too  .
I just don't get the prices. I can't imagine anyone paying that for plugs and are actually going to throw them in the water. Seems like they collect them more like folk art than fishing implements. To each their own but it will be a cod day in hell before I'd spend that much on a simple plug like a pencil when a Gibbs pencil will fish just as good and has for many years. Spend away.  |
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03-19-2014, 03:32 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2008
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Seems like most don't even know what they are paying for. These particular collectors just drop money on them because they are the current "collectable" plug. I'm going to guess if you asked any of these collectors to name 5 of 8 styles of plugs the builder makes they couldn't.
Not really collectors - more like guys who like to wait in line with money to blow.
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03-19-2014, 05:11 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: orange ct
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I suppose I am a plug collector - but I do not think I ever paid more than $35 for a plug except for Mike Fixter Pike and some Don Musso wood plugs. Those are part of surf fishing history and to me have value apart from the plugs. I cant imagine paying $200 for a modern Dmag or anything else.
I fish Beachmasters, Billy D, Manzi, Fixter, Musso wood, and Habs plugs- I just have extras. I think if you are a surfcaster and fish them but keep the backups and the extras- its more satisfying than just collecting the plugs as folk art.
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03-20-2014, 05:25 AM
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Oblivious // Grunt, Grunt Master
Join Date: Nov 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by iamskippy
He does have rattles in his canal pencils though.
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He makes pencils for the CANAL?
Not sure what a rattle adds to a pencil (fish don't tend to track pencils trying to decide, they rush them with their minds made up), but if you see a guy swimming in the canal this year it seems a good bet he is from NJ and just snapped off his DMag. |
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03-20-2014, 09:40 AM
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It's about respect baby!
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: ri
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The ny/nj guys do seminars teaching people how to fish the canal 
I wont begrudge how anyone spends their money... However i do make observations. Its I have this and you dont as soon as they get a hold of one they tell everyone and post pictures... Maybe its just me but its just a fishing lure right?  |
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03-20-2014, 12:49 PM
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BigFish Bait Co.
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hanover
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Hunk of wood with hooks....they all catch!
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Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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03-20-2014, 01:46 PM
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Georgetown MA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigFish
Hunk of wood with hooks....they all catch!
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Ain't the Plug, Its the Plugger...  |
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03-20-2014, 02:06 PM
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Well lets not go too far the other way. A Bob Pond 40 with the early glass eyes for example is not a hunk of wood with hooks- it is something more because of the historical significance.
So there are some plugs that I would say- yeah that has some added significance and its worth more than $20
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03-20-2014, 03:46 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: the Dirty Jerz
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I will start this response with the fact that I know Dmag personally, consider Dennis a friend, and is a very nice gentleman. He makes a great plug (as do many people on this site), and Dennis would be the first to admit that and admire everyone's work.
I am not sure what makes one builders plugs extremely desireable at one time or another. I wouldn't knock the builder for the prices the plugs demand...even if they charged those prices. It is a transaction, one person pays what they believe the plug is worth.
I do not believe the plug ho concept is limited to New York or New Jersey. Their are many individuals with deep pockets that pay large sums of money for plugs in New England, however, those plugs tend to be mode historical in nature.
There are great plug builders on this site that I have admired for a long time, and if they sold plugs at the fishing flea market shows they would soon have a great following and demand some major money.
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03-20-2014, 09:03 PM
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Location: RI
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Originally Posted by wader-dad
Well lets not go too far the other way. A Bob Pond 40 with the early glass eyes for example is not a hunk of wood with hooks- it is something more because of the historical significance.
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This is what will give some plugs lasting value. Otherwise they're pretty much all commodity items. Some noteworthy builders will perhaps get a premium...but the rest is all market hype.
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03-20-2014, 07:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigFish
Hunk of wood with hooks....they all catch!
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As is evidence of anything I turn out. Hunk of wood is putting it nicely.
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03-20-2014, 07:22 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: A village some where
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Quote:
Originally Posted by numbskull
He makes pencils for the CANAL?
Not sure what a rattle adds to a pencil (fish don't tend to track pencils trying to decide, they rush them with their minds made up), but if you see a guy swimming in the canal this year it seems a good bet he is from NJ and just snapped off his DMag.
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I fished up a NJ style pencil last year but it was not a Dmag, had a sticker looked like it said surf something or other on it. 😀 didnt see a fishermen on it either, i thought plugs catch fishermen before they catch fish 😀
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