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Old 06-12-2014, 08:48 AM   #5
Jim in CT
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Originally Posted by spence View Post
Ummmm, US troops left in 2011 buck.

I love it, blame Obama for a war Bush started.

I don't think Iraq is going to fall. The government needs to regroup. There will be more fighting. If they try and push further north the Kurds will kick their asses.

-spence
"blame Obama for a war Bush started"

I didn't hear a single person blame Obama for the war. Not one. Can you point to one?

Obama inherited a stabilizing Iraq, thanks to the Surge (which Obama and Hilary both mocked, by the way). Obama implemented the withdrawal which occurred on his watch, and the effects have not been favorable. It's absolutely fair to hold him accountable for that, as he had some choices available.

We do stink at nationbuilding. But if we learn anything from 09/11, we need to learn that it's not in our interests to allow for sovereign govenrments to be friendly with jihadists. That threatens our security. The fact is, we might well be better off right now had we not invaded to begin with. But we did invade, we can't change that, all we can do is manage the afetrmath as best we can, and the guy in charge now, has zero ability to solve these problems. I

raq is a lot less stable today than it was when Obama took office. That's fact. The deterioration is not all his fault. But he deserves some blame.
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