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12-10-2014, 03:19 PM
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"Fishbucket"
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Originally Posted by denis
Well said,CaptainPeros
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what the 17 foot skiff, back bay light tackle specialist telling the 6 pack charter fleet they can't have 2 fish per customer because that's not what HE wants, or caters HIS business to?
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Originally Posted by MakoMike
Nothing but pure jealousy and a beggar thy neighbor attitude. ]
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BINGO
Last edited by thefishingfreak; 12-10-2014 at 03:24 PM..
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12-10-2014, 03:23 PM
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this is a fish grab! This isnt about 'no one will book a charter with us if it goes down to one fish'... its 'we are going to get a lot more bookings if its 2 fish!!!"
FISH GRAB!!!!  |
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12-10-2014, 03:37 PM
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Afterhours Custom Plugs
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nebe
this is a fish grab! This isnt about 'no one will book a charter with us if it goes down to one fish'... its 'we are going to get a lot more bookings if its 2 fish!!!"
FISH GRAB!!!! |
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12-10-2014, 03:57 PM
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Lots of resentment, it seems, from the 6 pack guys. Do you really, genuinely believe that bookings will take a meaningful drop if the limit is 1 fish per angler? I'm no expert on the clientele of 6-packs. All I know is my college friends and I go once a year for a reunion, we keep our limit. If the limit is cut in half, it would never even cross my mind not to go.
I am sure there are SOME clients who won't go if it's 1 fish. Is it a meaningful number? And how many clients will you get if the stock collapses and you get skunked half the time? This fall, we almost didn't go because the captain ( a very honest guy) told us how lousy the bass fishing was, so we fished for sea bass most of the day.
Looks to me like everyone wants to get as much cash as they can before the well is dry.
I can't see why someone on a charter boat has a right to more fish than the recreational guy in his own boat. I just can't see how anyone justifies that.
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12-10-2014, 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
Lots of resentment, it seems, from the 6 pack guys. Do you really, genuinely believe that bookings will take a meaningful drop if the limit is 1 fish per angler? I'm no expert on the clientele of 6-packs. All I know is my college friends and I go once a year for a reunion, we keep our limit. If the limit is cut in half, it would never even cross my mind not to go.
I am sure there are SOME clients who won't go if it's 1 fish. Is it a meaningful number? And how many clients will you get if the stock collapses and you get skunked half the time? This fall, we almost didn't go because the captain ( a very honest guy) told us how lousy the bass fishing was, so we fished for sea bass most of the day.
Looks to me like everyone wants to get as much cash as they can before the well is dry.
I can't see why someone on a charter boat has a right to more fish than the recreational guy in his own boat. I just can't see how anyone justifies that.
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Jim, They see it as a BOOM for business if it is 2 fish, because there will be a reward if you book a charter as opposed to going by yourself... if you go by yourself off the rocks, you can keep 1, but if you pay the piper and go on a charter, you can keep 2! Or, better yet for the captain, he can still sell his paying fare's unwanted catch on the commercial market or black market just the way he has been for years. .
This is corruption at the core. |
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12-10-2014, 04:37 PM
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I guarantee you all that this issue is not about wether the charter fleet will loose money, its the prospects of making more money and the black market has a strong influence here as well.. That is where the real money will be lost.
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12-10-2014, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Nebe
I guarantee you all that this issue is not about wether the charter fleet will loose money, its the prospects of making more money and the black market has a strong influence here as well.. That is where the real money will be lost.
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In the case of the Stellwagon guys , there is little left to fish for . Catch shares crushed the cod , and they don't have scup, sea bass, etc .
This is about surviving not boosting business .
You don't have a clue
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12-10-2014, 04:44 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nebe
Jim, They see it as a BOOM for business if it is 2 fish, because there will be a reward if you book a charter as opposed to going by yourself... if you go by yourself off the rocks, you can keep 1, but if you pay the piper and go on a charter, you can keep 2! Or, better yet for the captain, he can still sell his paying fare's unwanted catch on the commercial market or black market just the way he has been for years. .
This is corruption at the core.
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Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
That's total BS and shows the disdain you have for charter captains |
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12-11-2014, 07:27 AM
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"Fishbucket"
Join Date: Feb 2004
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim in CT
Lots of resentment, it seems, from the 6 pack guys.
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No resentment here. If we get 2 fish we get 2 fish. If not that's fine. but that doesn't mean we can't ASK.
The true resentment here is from those who can't stand the thought of a special group possibly getting what they can't |
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12-11-2014, 07:31 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thefishingfreak
The true resentment here is from those who can't stand the thought of a special group possibly getting what they can't
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I think it's more the fact that the need has not yet been demonstrated or articulated in a convincing way... |
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12-11-2014, 07:40 AM
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we're all selfish
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The United States Constitution does not exist to grant you rights; those rights are inherent within you. Rather it exists to frame a limited government so that those natural rights can be exercised freely.
1984 was a warning, not a guidebook!
It's time more people spoke up with the truth. Every time we let a leftist lie go uncorrected, the commies get stronger.
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12-11-2014, 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Slipknot
we're all selfish
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yup....I'm very interested to hear the rationale however...
if someone could fill in the blank....might help better understand the perspective...
the recreational limit for stripers for 2015 is now 1@28"....we/our clients need an exception to be able to keep two fish because.... |
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12-10-2014, 03:51 PM
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Fish grab for who, the charter clients or the capt ?
QUOTE=Nebe;1058579]this is a fish grab! This isnt about 'no one will book a charter with us if it goes down to one fish'... its 'we are going to get a lot more bookings if its 2 fish!!!"
FISH GRAB!!!! [/QUOTE]
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12-10-2014, 03:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thefishingfreak
what the 17 foot skiff, back bay light tackle specialist telling the 6 pack charter fleet they can't have 2 fish per customer because that's not what HE wants, or caters HIS business to?
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Yup, well said on his part.
I might be reading it wrong but aren't you doing the same thing you accuse him of doing? |
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