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Old 01-04-2015, 10:13 PM   #1
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In the end, one @ 28 will likely wind up winning. If the charter guys
get more, there will be too much uproar from the regular sportfishing guys about it. But I do think it's sort of sad that the regular sportfishing guys can't see the difference. The typical captain has all the various bills to pay, and needs to keep charter customers happy. The typical sport plops down $200+ for his one (or maybe two) days a year out fishing, and that's his likely only chance at a keeper. A lot of the guys on this board are out 3-5 nights a week all summer, and may catch 20-30 keepers easily each season. Does it really seem fair for the charter guy to miss his one chance of the year at more than one, when others take home 10 times that many each year? Sigh. Life isn't fair, is it? It doesn't matter; no matter what they do, no one will like it.
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Old 01-05-2015, 06:03 AM   #2
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Sigh. Life isn't fair, is it?
agreed but the rules should be fair and applied equally if you want to avoid all of this unhappiness...if you want to compare anglers and time spent on the water as a reason for an exception you should also apply that to boats too....the average for-hire spends far more time on the water and with many more people on his boat than the average rec boat fisherman and as a result kills many more fish throughout a season, applying your logic does it seem fair that one boat on the water nearly every day should be able to keep twice as many fish per person as another boat that is on the water on an occasional weekend on what might be their only opportunity to keep fish that day/week/month?

"Does it really seem fair for the rec boat guy to miss his one chance of the week at more than one, when others take home 10 times that many each week?"
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Old 01-05-2015, 06:08 AM   #3
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agreed but the rules should be fair and applied equally if you want to avoid all of this unhappiness...if you want to compare anglers and time spent on the water as a reason for an exception you should also apply that to boats too....the average for-hire spends far more time on the water and with many more people on his boat than the average rec boat fisherman and as a result kills many more fish throughout a season, applying your logic does it seem fair that one boat on the water nearly every day should be able to keep twice as many fish per person as another boat that is on the water on an occasional weekend on what might be their only opportunity to keep fish that day/week/month?

"Does it really seem fair for the rec boat guy to miss his one chance of the week at more than one, when others take home 10 times that many each week?"
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Old 01-05-2015, 06:11 AM   #4
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this is such a boat-centric argument, I'm still wondering if the guides and clients of shore guides/kayak fishing guides etc. will/should get a two fish exception based on the same rationale and the fact that the fishing is probably even tougher
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"Does it really seem fair for the rec boat guy to miss his one chance of the week at more than one, when others take home 10 times that many each week?"[/QUOTE]


Who are the "Others"
Charter crew or clients ???
Most charter clients go fishing 1 or 2 times a year.
Recs (as you say) go 1 time a week.
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Who are the "Others"
Charter crew or clients ???
Most charter clients go fishing 1 or 2 times a year.
Recs (as you say) go 1 time a week.


I was talking rec boat vs. "other" boat(boat for boat)....get's convoluted when you start talking about fairness and everyone is operating under different rules doesn't it?....we're talking about mortality reduction...how many dead bass hit the decks of that rec boat fishing maybe 1 time a week and how many hit the deck of the for hire boat....where's the reduction ?

the fairness issue is interesting....

if three brothers are in town for the weekend for their "1 time" fishing for the year...

one chooses to hire charter a boat and can keep two bass

one hires a shore guide and we don't know how exceptions would apply or fishes from a friend's boat and can keep one bass

one fishes the shore by himself, can keep one bass

fairness and the reduction .....and what makes the three brothers different that they are treated differently?
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I was talking rec boat vs. "other" boat(boat for boat)....get's convoluted when you start talking about fairness and everyone is operating under different rules doesn't it?....we're talking about mortality reduction...how many dead bass hit the decks of that rec boat fishing maybe 1 time a week and how many hit the deck of the for hire boat....where's the reduction ?

the fairness issue is interesting....

if three brothers are in town for the weekend for their "1 time" fishing for the year...

one chooses to hire charter a boat and can keep two bass

one hires a shore guide and we don't know how exceptions would apply or fishes from a friend's boat and can keep one bass

one fishes the shore by himself, can keep one bass

fairness and the reduction .....and what makes the three brothers different that they are treated differently?
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Old 01-05-2015, 09:48 AM   #8
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buckman: You are right, life isn't fair. If the guides can not earn enough from their sports with 1@28" then maybe they should find another job; like many of us has had to do. The guides can complain all they want but it won't do them any good just like everyone else who has complained about hard times; you just have to suck it up and move on.
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Old 01-05-2015, 10:45 AM   #9
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buckman: You are right, life isn't fair. If the guides can not earn enough from their sports with 1@28" then maybe they should find another job;
That isn't fair, "there are very few species left for the charters to target."

No, no, no. we’re 30… 30, three zero.
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