TWO BASS FOR RI CHARTER AND PARTY BOATS?

[zimmy]

What is delusional is the idea that the population can be properly managed with maximum sustainable yield as the standard.

[DZ]

After a meeting yesterday it appears NY will now also request a two fish bag from ASMFC for all fishermen. These decisions are creating lots of disillusioned recs who are now seeing that the ASMFC public hearing process last year was basically a waste of time. Massachusetts meetings this week - and RI appears to be waiting for the last minute so as to see what other states have done.

[Ed B]

Because recreational fisherman have so overwhelmingly been in favor of the one fish option, there have been discussions amongst recs advocating a boycott of the Party and Charter Boat Associations that are favoring the two fish option. With today's widespread communication capabilities along the coast it may just have some effect and if it's all about the money it would give the for-hire guys something to think about if they ostracize themselves from the recreational community.

Striped bass is a unique fishery to the recs and unlike other fisheries they've really got people's attention on this one.

[thefishingfreak]

Originally Posted by Ed B

recs advocating a boycott of the Party and Charter Boat Associations that are favoring the two fish option. With today's widespread communication capabilities along the coast it may just have some effect

If this isn't pure petty jealousy, I don't know what is.
If you don't get your way, then you're going to boycott.

[Ed B]

Originally Posted by thefishingfreak

If this isn't pure petty jealousy, I don't know what is.
If you don't get your way, then you're going to boycott.

There're plenty of Charter captains that do favor a one-fish option. They're not too popular with some of there associates right now but they have been speaking up commendably in the face of criticism. If you're going to take a charter it only seems logical to write your check out to someone who shares a similar attitude about the resource.

[buckman]

Originally Posted by Ed B

There're plenty of Charter captains that do favor a one-fish option. They're not too popular with some of there associates right now but they have been speaking up commendably in the face of criticism. If you're going to take a charter it only seems logical to write your check out to someone who shares a similar attitude about the resource.

A personal decision based on beliefs is one thing . An organized effort to put people out of business that don't agree with your certain group is wrong .
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[Ed B]

Originally Posted by buckman

A personal decision based on beliefs is one thing . An organized effort to put people out of business that don't agree with your certain group is wrong .
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Every individual has the right and final say to spend his money as he sees fit. We have had an organized effort here in RI by the Party and Charter Boat Assn to hold a private meeting with our state rep without anyone else's knowledge or notification. This is still a representative democracy where the majority elects the representatives to make the laws. Not a private club of lobbyists.

The tackle shops and tackle dealers that make their money and employ people by serving the inshore and shore fishing sectors have been hurt financially, the fly shops and guides have been hurt or are out of business, and a good number of Charter captain's see a stronger long term business plan with the one-fish option. These groups see the push for a two-fish option as a near-sighted organized effort during private meetings putting them out of business as a byproduct of the speculation of a quick buck.

[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by thefishingfreak

If this isn't pure petty jealousy, I don't know what is.
If you don't get your way, then you're going to boycott.

Kind of what you said about the site
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[thefishingfreak]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

Kind of what you said about the site
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Kind of.

[dannyplug1]

Bottom line killing two fish is worse for the population than killing one. It seems obvious to anyone who is not going to profit from the death/ harvesting of those fish. As Winston Churchill put it "there are lies, dammed lies, and statistics." Those who hide behind those stats are not fooling anyone

[buckman]

Originally Posted by Ed B

Because recreational fisherman have so overwhelmingly been in favor of the one fish option, there have been discussions amongst recs advocating a boycott of the Party and Charter Boat Associations that are favoring the two fish option. With today's widespread communication capabilities along the coast it may just have some effect and if it's all about the money it would give the for-hire guys something to think about if they ostracize themselves from the recreational community.

Striped bass is a unique fishery to the recs and unlike other fisheries they've really got people's attention on this one.

Threats ??? Real class
I change my mind… When would you like to book the trip ??
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[Ed B]

Originally Posted by buckman

Threats ??? Real class
I change my mind… When would you like to book the trip ??
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It's a topic of conversation in circulation and it's not my idea. Not going fishing is not a threat. It's merely a decision not to lend financial support to a group that does not share a similar conservation ethic.

Thanks for the offer but I wouldn't like to book a trip.