TWO BASS FOR RI CHARTER AND PARTY BOATS?

[buckman]

You guys need to chill ! I know these charter guys are bass killing machines but in reality this is a very small part to the problem . Blaming charter boats has become "cool" to some here .
Can anyone here tell me why this has become such a fiery issue ?
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[Slipknot]

Originally Posted by buckman

Can anyone here tell me why this has become such a fiery issue ?
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Because most of us have lived through a collapse before and we see it coming and are passionate about the sport we love. There, simple enough for you?

[Slipknot]

THANK YOU DZ

[buckman]

Originally Posted by Slipknot

Because most of us have lived through a collapse before and we see it coming and are passionate about the sport we love. There, simple enough for you?

I take it you won't be fishing for stripers anymore until they have reached your satisfactory level ?
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[Slipknot]

Originally Posted by buckman

I take it you won't be fishing for stripers anymore until they have reached your satisfactory level ?
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sure thing
and in 3 years you won't be either


go ahead and support your special regulation all you want
I don't understand why you have a problem with one user group trying to keep things on the level while another wants accommodations made for them if available all the while knowing it is not really a conservation equivalent.

Kind of like the democrats bickering with the republicans, the haves and the have nots.

I'll be catching blues again this coming spring much like I did last spring, then maybe I'll torture some schoolies with a flyrod until there are no more stripers left.

[BigFish]

I fished for stripers quite sparingly last season! Figured I would let well enough alone! I have enjoyed spending more time in my kayak in freshwater! Lots of fun, quiet....no bickering.....just nice!

[puppet]

Originally Posted by Mr. Sandman

All this proves my point that until you take the price off the fish's head there is no hope for the species.

Agreed. Thanks for posting.
Taking the comercial aspect out of the picture and strict
enforcement of the laws, are really the best hope.

Originally Posted by buckman

Can anyone here tell me why this has become such a fiery issue ?

I can only speak for myself. I do not point blame at any one source,
but the lions share of the problem falls on the government. Their
lack of ability to manage the resource and enforce law.

My home waters are in the western Long island sound. For the last
two years they are practically void of life. Last year being the
worst. I love fishing and fishing for striped bass. The quality and
quantity I had in my backyard, I can no longer enjoy. Its gone.

I am not perfect. I do not go to these political hearings. Over the
years, I have watched surfcasters harvest fish over limit. I have
boarded charters and made it a point to limit. My own ignorance
contributed to the fall of the fishery.

Really It would be my preference to be in a moratorium. The 1 fish
per angler is a compromise. Any party who argues that we or they
should have 2 fish per angler is really requesting no change and
frankly does not care about the fishery.

Its a heated issue because we are all in a bad place and we are all to
blame. The fishery is hanging by a thread and some parties seem
interested in taking a knife to whats left.

[buckman]

Originally Posted by puppet

Agreed. Thanks for posting.
Taking the comercial aspect out of the picture and strict
enforcement of the laws, are really the best hope.



I can only speak for myself. I do not point blame at any one source,
but the lions share of the problem falls on the government. Their
lack of ability to manage the resource and enforce law.

My home waters are in the western Long island sound. For the last
two years they are practically void of life. Last year being the
worst. I love fishing and fishing for striped bass. The quality and
quantity I had in my backyard, I can no longer enjoy. Its gone.

I am not perfect. I do not go to these political hearings. Over the
years, I have watched surfcasters harvest fish over limit. I have
boarded charters and made it a point to limit. My own ignorance
contributed to the fall of the fishery.

Really It would be my preference to be in a moratorium. The 1 fish
per angler is a compromise. Any party who argues that we or they
should have 2 fish per angler is really requesting no change and
frankly does not care about the fishery.

Its a heated issue because we are all in a bad place and we are all to
blame. The fishery is hanging by a thread and some parties seem
interested in taking a knife to whats left.

Thank you .
I still believe there are a lot of factors and most of them have a far greater bearing on the population then going after the charterboats . I just find it interesting that this is where many here have decided to pick thier battle. Their only battle !
It's symbol of a substance and it won't accomplishes anything .
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[puppet]

Originally Posted by buckman

Thank you .
I still believe there are a lot of factors and most of them have a far greater bearing on the population then going after the charterboats . I just find it interesting that this is where many here have decided to pick thier battle. Their only battle !
It's symbol of a substance and it won't accomplishes anything .

I think the issue with the charters has more to do some Captains
claiming a hardship and demanding that their clients need a two fish
limit. At least for me, I do not see that there should be any grey
area. As it is the rules are not enforced...never mind making them
more confusing. There is also the issue of some charters keeping
illegal fish and selling them via black market....not helping matters.

All of us have seen casters haul more than two fish to their car. One
night in montauk, the bite was wide open and the creep next to me
kept every single one. He dragged it to the beach where his mob
would take it away.

There is no question....every group has members that are guilty for
bending the rules.

[zimmy]

Originally Posted by buckman

You guys need to chill ! I know these charter guys are bass killing machines but in reality this is a very small part to the problem . Blaming charter boats has become "cool" to some here .
Can anyone here tell me why this has become such a fiery issue ?
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Simple. Two major problems of which can be controlled that have lead to the demise are harvest by recs and chartesr. 1@28 for recs was in every way the least that could be done, but a teeny step. The conservation equivalency is complete bs and does nothing to reduce the impact by charters, which is why they asked for it. Result- continued decline of a fishery that is already worse than the regulators will acknowledge. That should be enough to fire up anyone who actually cares.