Maybe not Obama's take in the rise of ISIS but...

[spence]

Originally Posted by detbuch

To be a bit more rational, if Iran really wants the bomb they are not going to make a deal that stops them from getting it. If they really don't want the bomb, negotiations should not be difficult--should have been accomplished long, long ago, even pre-Dubbya. So an alternative approach would have to include either incorporating Iran's getting the bomb, or forcefully destroying its ability to so get.

I'm not sure the bomb gets them anything right now. There would likely be even harsher penalties (including military) that would just set them back further. Their Arabian enemies don't have them so what's the point?

Any why should this make negotiation easy? From their perspective the bigger a perceived threat only bolsters their position to get more from a deal.

What's the difference between forcefully destroying their ability or limiting it through inspections or other means? Centrifuges are just material and can be rebuilt.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

I'm not sure the bomb gets them anything right now. There would likely be even harsher penalties (including military) that would just set them back further. Their Arabian enemies don't have them so what's the point?

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Maybe, just maybe, "the point" is what many in Iran state "the point" is, which woul dbe to develop th ebomb, then lob it into Israel. Do you not listen to anything these people say? Iran is on eof the world's leading state sponsors of terrorism. Maybe it behooves us to keep nukes out of their hands?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

I'm not sure the bomb gets them anything right now. There would likely be even harsher penalties (including military) that would just set them back further. Their Arabian enemies don't have them so what's the point?

Any why should this make negotiation easy? From their perspective the bigger a perceived threat only bolsters their position to get more from a deal.

What's the difference between forcefully destroying their ability or limiting it through inspections or other means? Centrifuges are just material and can be rebuilt.

"I'm not sure the bomb gets them anything right now. "

It gets them the ability to incinerate an awful lot of Jews.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

"I'm not sure the bomb gets them anything right now. "

It gets them the ability to incinerate an awful lot of Jews.

And bring about their own destruction? Never going to happen.