The Brady "THING"

[The Dad Fisherman]

My biggest issue with this is with the Arbitrary Punishments that Goodell throws around....absolutely no consistency.

In 2006 the Jets get caught taping the Pats from a non-approved location and get fined.....Nothing
In 2007 the Patriots get caught taping the Jets from a non-approved location and get fined...$500,000 for the Team, $250,000 for the Coach, and the loss of First Round Pick

In 2014 the Carolina panthers got caught, on film, heating footballs during the game and got fined.....Nothing
In 2012 the San Diego chargers got caught hiding stickum in towels, and refused to give the towels to the refs, and they were fined.......$20,000
In 2015 the Patriots get accused of deflating footballs, a $10,000,000 investigation ensues, which determines that something might have happened and the Patriots get fined......$1,000,000 to the Team, loss of 2 draft picks, and a 4 game suspension for their Quarter Back

and for those saying that Brady is getting fined for not giving up his personal phone....
In 2010 Brett Favre is accused of Sexually Harassing another Jets employee by Sending pictures of his #^&#^&#^&#^& to her, he refuses to give up his phone and he is fined......$50,000
In 2015 Tom Brady is accused of having the footballs deflated a friggin pound, he refuses to Give up his phone and he is fined.....a 4 game suspension which amounts to $1,750,000

Goodell's Integrity is a friggin joke

[Rockport24]

great points!

well, most legal experts are saying that the NFL doesn't really have a leg to stand on in federal court on this, so it seems that Tom will end up playing the entire season anyway.

[Raven]

well spoken tdf

[vineyardblues]

A close lawyer friend in DC said Brady will get off, the NFL does not have anything that will stick to the wall.
Ps, He is a Redskin fan.
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[spence]

And so now that the NFL's case against #12 is completely falling apart, when will all the haters start the migration?

[Sea Dangles]

After reading the majority of the transcript I admit to having a new outlook. I am still wondering what type of motivation Goodell has to let it get to this point. I am leaning towards the Spence/ Incognito camp and wondering how a company that size can do business in this manner.
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[afterhours]

goodell is basking in the sunshine of all the haters and losers. his hatred for bb extends to tb. love to see the keystone cops sting op exposed.

[Slipknot]

If you think about it Chris, considering he screwed up on the Rice thing and listened to public opinion about the outrage then over punished, he also let things hang out there in this case to see which way the wind blows and listened as the media covered all across the country how the haters wanted Brady's head on a platter, so seeing how he could not find guilt from Bill, he completely reamed the team and whacked Brady hard. He let it fester so much there was no going back. I think they had no clue about how the weather can effect ball pressure so they already had their minds made up when Kensil told the Patriot guy you're in big f ing trouble. The investigation was a witch hunt and now Roger is contradicting and continues to make s h it up as he goes along changes things to suit his agenda to make himself look good but smart people should see thru this, the other owners go along with it but if this happens to them, and it will eventually, they will sing another tune like Kraft now does.

one thing led to another

I am still convinced that when Brady looked guilty at the early press conference, he was just given reports of 11 of 12 balls under 2 pounds low, and had no idea how that could be and did not know how that happened or had no explanation so everyone thought/assumed he did something.

I find it very hard to believe he would ever condone tampering with balls after the officials approve them, it never happened and never would.

Goodell needs to be replaced by someone capable, he has shown he is not capable.

[nightfighter]

Judge to NFL; "where is the evidence?" Questioned the independence of the Wells report. Pointed remarks made to Brady's team too.

Brady camp does not appear to be willing to make ANY deal.

But this thing is continued until the 19th????? What a waste of resources given the coverage......

[Sea Dangles]

The lack of evidence is what may eliminate the suspension. Innocent until PROVEN guilty is what will save Toms butt most likely.
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[Jackbass]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

The lack of evidence is what may eliminate the suspension. Innocent until PROVEN guilty is what will save Toms butt most likely.
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Save his butt or pull the veil
Off of the NFL's BS case on what was truly a non issue fabricated by butt hurt Former jets employees? And ego hurt HC of the Ravens.

As the truth comes out via a truly independent arbitrator the NFL is looking ridiculous
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[Raven]

i am more concerned about the bills hiring
the guy (51) after he sucker punched the jets QB
breaking his Jaw....

on Brady - glad to see a JUDGE takin up the cause

[PaulS]

I can't get past him destroying his phone and the timing of it.

[BigBo]

Originally Posted by PaulS

I can't get past him destroying his phone and the timing of it.

Even with his text records turned over with no missing content?

[spence]

Originally Posted by PaulS

I can't get past him destroying his phone and the timing of it.

I think it was more of an 'eff you courtesy of your union lawyers. If they believed there was no evidence of any wrong doing they're not destroying any evidence and I'm sure there would be PLENTY of embarrassing personal stuff for the League to selectively leak.

[DZ]

It was good to see Judge Berman completely discounted any texts that did not revolve around the "game in question". I think the NFLs case was that deflating footballs was an ongoing conspiracy by Brady in previous games. They can't use that argument anymore. I'm still thinking a monetary fine is the compromise in exchange for complete NFL statement of exoneration for Brady. Both sides get "something" and everyone should be happy.

[Jackbass]

Originally Posted by spence

I'm sure there would be PLENTY of embarrassing personal stuff for the League to selectively leak.

The NFL has shown such discretion in regards to this matter. I can't imagine him not trusting them with personal info. (Sarcasm for those that are slow waking up this morning)
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[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by DZ

It was good to see Judge Berman completely discounted any texts that did not revolve around the "game in question". I think the NFLs case was that deflating footballs was an ongoing conspiracy by Brady in previous games. They can't use that argument anymore. I'm still thinking a monetary fine is the compromise in exchange for complete NFL statement of exoneration for Brady. Both sides get "something" and everyone should be happy.

If they exonerate Brady then there should be zero fine.....you can't fine somebody who has been found not guilty.

and they got there pound of flesh in the form of a $1,000,000 fine and 2 draft picks from the Pats Organization.

Goodell could have avoided this whole friggin fiasco if he put his ego aside and just hit the Pats with a small fine in the beginning.....say.....$25,000 like its supposed to be.

[MAKAI]

I would guess this now has more to do with collective bargaining arbitration process than PSI.
May set a precedent for other labor unions CBA'S down the road.
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[Raider Ronnie]

I drove down rt1 last night while the game was being played.
Got to laugh at the vendors selling the "Free Tom Brady" posters and shirts.
Free him from what ?
Jail, slavery ????
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[Rockport24]

How about unjust persecution!!

[Slipknot]

Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie

I drove down rt1 last night while the game was being played.
Got to laugh at the vendors selling the "Free Tom Brady" posters and shirts.
Free him from what ?
Jail, slavery ????
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the prison of wrong public perception
brought to him by circumstances formed,twisted and carried thru by a bunch of whiny babies

[Raider Ronnie]

Originally Posted by Slipknot

the prison of wrong public perception
brought to him by circumstances formed,twisted and carried thru by a bunch of whiny babies

All over the Internet the last few days, looks like Tom is getting freed from Gizelle.
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[Raven]

say it isn't so

[Raider Ronnie]

Anyone else hear this story about Brady & Ben Affleck double teaming Affleck's nanny on an airplane (or London Bridging as it was told to me)
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[scottw]

I read that Tom and Ben are an item now.....not that there's anything wrong with that....

[Slipknot]

Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie

Anyone else hear this story about Brady & Ben Affleck double teaming Affleck's nanny on an airplane (or London Bridging as it was told to me)
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no but I have heard that is is well known around the league that the Pats have been getting away with lots of stuff for years. rumors equal perception right? then perception is reality, I see how it works

[MakoMike]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

Is there anybody here that still believes TB12 had nothing to do with deflate gate?

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-sh...221425352.html

After more than seven months, several millions of dollars and big talking from the league and commissioner Roger Goodell in the deflate-gate controversy, the first time someone independent looked at the case against Tom Brady it was thrown out.

[MAKAI]

What a colossal waste of court time.
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[Slipknot]

I never had any doubt
the NFL has no clue how to police their league