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Old 08-12-2015, 03:17 PM   #1
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So, this is a small set of emails from the small set released by the State Department, of the less than half of emails HC gave to State, after deleting more than half of the files.

This is big and it has been said so for some time but nobody wants to care. The fact that the server was not properly secured means that the potential exists for thousands of emails were possible classified. Anyone else would go to a long time of making little rocks out of big rocks.
I would venture to say that 99% of the e-mails on that server were, at the very least, Unclassified/FOUO (For Official Use Only). Which means only for people with a "Need to Know"

Don't think Chinese Hackers fall into that category.....

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Old 08-12-2015, 05:50 PM   #2
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just think about the kinds of things that other candidates have been run out of contention for...that this woman is even a marginal thought as a potential US President is laughable and frightening, she's a disaster ....what's the "state of the dem's"?? this disaster, a socialist dinosaur, biden and chaffee(dumb and dumber)....not crazy about most of the GOP but they sure look great next to the dem's line up of losers
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not crazy about most of the GOP but they sure look great next to the dem's line up of losers
Have you given Ben Carson a look? I don't think he has a prayer, but my God, the guy is impressive. He went to Harlem yesterday, and told people in Harlem (talk about going into the belly of the beast) and told them that it's not white republicans who are to blame for their problems, but rather the liberal policy "of not showing us respect, not treating us like equals, but patting us on the head and treating us like pets. That's what happens when they don't respect you, but take care of you, so that in turn, you will take care of them". Heroically, he likened liberal policies to Lyndon Johnson's famous statement "if we give these n's free stuff, they'll vote for us for 200 years". He also said that the only solution is to embrace the only values that matter, family and faith.

Brave, and very intellectually honest.
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I always liked him. A bright guy who seems very honest and trustworthy.

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Old 08-13-2015, 12:36 PM   #5
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I always liked him. A bright guy who seems very honest and trustworthy.
He gave a great answer on his abortion position very recently. He said that he worked most of hi scareer as a pediatric neurosurgeon, an dthat he couldn't count ho wmany times he and his team fought all night long, giving everything they had, to save critical babies, sometimes who were still in the womb. So he said that no one should be shocked that he's not in favor of killing babies for convenience.

I thought it was a fair, honest answer.

He just comes across as a decent, honest, thoughtful man.
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He gave a great answer on his abortion position very recently. He said that he worked most of hi scareer as a pediatric neurosurgeon, an dthat he couldn't count ho wmany times he and his team fought all night long, giving everything they had, to save critical babies, sometimes who were still in the womb. So he said that no one should be shocked that he's not in favor of killing babies for convenience.

I thought it was a fair, honest answer.

He just comes across as a decent, honest, thoughtful man.
So neither of you have any problems with his research on tissue from aborted fetus'?
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So neither of you have any problems with his research on tissue from aborted fetus'?
A tough but fair question.

I don't think most people have a problem with performing medical research on corpses, even babies. I have no quarel with that. But I would assume that those folks died of natural causes or an accident. I also assume, as the law requires, that fetal corpses used for research, were not manipulated while still alive, for the specific reason of maximizing harvestable tissue. Finally, what sickened a lot of folks about PP, was the absolute callousness with which they discussed such things, but in my opinion, you need to have something deeply wrong with you to do that for a living, so maybe it's not that surprising.
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So neither of you have any problems with his research on tissue from aborted fetus'?
If it matters, Carson is denying that he ever performed research on fetal tissue. His surgeries. done in the effort to save lives, were sometimes used as a source for scientific research. He has no ethical issue with that research, but claims he has never been involved.
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So neither of you have any problems with his research on tissue from aborted fetus'?
Today was the first I heard of that.
He is being interviewed tonight so I will wait to see what he has to say
before I pass judgment.

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