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12-11-2015, 07:36 PM
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When people criticize Trump for wanting a temporary ban on Muslim immigration by saying that's not who we are, or that it is un-American, or anti-constitutional, do they know what they are talking about? I'd think the Founders' opinion would be American, constitutional, and who we are:
http://humanevents.com/2015/12/11/im...tm_campaign=nl
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12-12-2015, 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
When people criticize Trump for wanting a temporary ban on Muslim immigration by saying that's not who we are, or that it is un-American, or anti-constitutional, do they know what they are talking about? I'd think the Founders' opinion would be American, constitutional, and who we are:
http://humanevents.com/2015/12/11/im...tm_campaign=nl
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Your author goes off the tracks in their very first sentence.
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12-12-2015, 05:16 PM
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Trump is a Nationalist in every sense of the word. And many are attracted to strengthening this nation. That said, he is also a world class self promoter above anything and as much a wildcard as the nutjob who is President of Iran.
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12-13-2015, 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by spence
Your author goes off the tracks in their very first sentence.
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Spence, you are resorting to your old, annoying hit and run tactics again.... Stand up and explain yourself instead.
Here is the first sentence to which you refer;
President Obama claims that restricting immigration in order to protect national security is “offensive and contrary to American values.”
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12-13-2015, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by nightfighter
Spence, you are resorting to your old, annoying hit and run tactics again.... Stand up and explain yourself instead.
Here is the first sentence to which you refer;
President Obama claims that restricting immigration in order to protect national security is “offensive and contrary to American values.”
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It's not hit and run, I just have other priorities.
The author is taking the Obama quote out of context and attempting to run with it the entire piece.
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12-13-2015, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
It's not hit and run, I just have other priorities.
The author is taking the Obama quote out of context and attempting to run with it the entire piece.
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DON'T SPIN THIS...... ENGLISH IS MY FIRST LANGUAGE. I UNDERSTAND WHAT OBAMA SAID, HAS SAID, OVER AND OVER. THIS IS NOT OUT OF CONTEXT. Do you think we were born yesterday to believe your increasing jibberish?
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12-13-2015, 04:10 PM
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DON'T SPIN THIS...... ENGLISH IS MY FIRST LANGUAGE. I UNDERSTAND WHAT OBAMA SAID, HAS SAID, OVER AND OVER. THIS IS NOT OUT OF CONTEXT. Do you think we were born yesterday to believe your increasing jibberish?
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Why are you yelling?
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12-13-2015, 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
Why are you yelling?
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Because you continue with a guerilla politico, half response style designed to antagonize, and twist statements to fit your party line point of view. You spew the liberal sheeple sentiment, denying your chosen one could do any wrong. I also yell because I don't have the power to deport aggravating windbags like you to the Sudan.... which I assume would be more acceptable to you than RR's suggestion.
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12-13-2015, 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
Why are you yelling?
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Funny stuff . My ex used to text everything in capitals even when she wasn't mad . I used to ask her that all the time and she never figured out what I meant .
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12-12-2015, 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
When people criticize Trump for wanting a temporary ban on Muslim immigration by saying that's not who we are, or that it is un-American, or anti-constitutional, do they know what they are talking about? I'd think the Founders' opinion would be American, constitutional, and who we are:
http://humanevents.com/2015/12/11/im...tm_campaign=nl
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George Washington's letter to J.Adams summed the reasons for immigration
up perfectly-- "by an inter mixture with our people they,
or their decendents get assimilated into our customs, measures, laws: in a word, soon become one people.
This is a far cry from some immigrants today coming here to create their own terrorist state and kill us.
Wake up and put a hold on immigration until we find a fool proof way to vet those who come here to kill us, rather than assimilate with us.
A Third Grader could see the common sense in that.
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" Choose Life "
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12-13-2015, 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by justplugit
George Washington's letter to J.Adams summed the reasons for immigration
up perfectly-- "by an inter mixture with our people they,
or their decendents get assimilated into our customs, measures, laws: in a word, soon become one people.
This is a far cry from some immigrants today coming here to create their own terrorist state and kill us.
Wake up and put a hold on immigration until we find a fool proof way to vet those who come here to kill us, rather than assimilate with us.
A Third Grader could see the common sense in that.
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That's not what trump called for.
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12-13-2015, 03:59 AM
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Originally Posted by spence
That's not what trump called for.
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how do you know what he called for?..you frequently tell us that politicians(particularly those that you adore) don't mean what they actually said, in fact, can often mean something entirely different than what they clearly state...perhaps you are taking him out of context or perhaps it was a long day on the campaign trail and he was exhausted...or maybe you aren't smart enough to grasp the concepts and nuances of what he was actually calling for.... soooo...you should probably just start calling him "President Trump" ... 
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12-13-2015, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by spence
That's not what trump called for.
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Spence, please explain Trump's plan to me, being I must have
missed something after seeing him interviewed at least 6 times
on the matter.
Better yet, first go back in time and answer the many
questions I have asked you to answer and you go all AWOL on me. 
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12-13-2015, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by justplugit
Spence, please explain Trump's plan to me, being I must have
missed something after seeing him interviewed at least 6 times
on the matter.
Better yet, first go back in time and answer the many
questions I have asked you to answer and you go all AWOL on me. :hihii:
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Trumps plan is to self promote and divide the GOP to help Hillary win the election. You didn't get the memo ?
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12-13-2015, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Nebe
Trumps plan is to self promote and divide the GOP to help Hillary win the election. You didn't get the memo ?
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No, didn't get it Nebe, Spence must of been in charge of sending
it out. 
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12-13-2015, 02:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nebe
Trumps plan is to self promote and divide the GOP to help Hillary win the election. You didn't get the memo ?
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This actually makes total sense of what we are witnessing....
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12-13-2015, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by nightfighter
This actually makes total sense of what we are witnessing....
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I'll go a bit further. You will see this pig loose the primaries and then will do the cable news talk show circuit as a paid mouth to criticize who ever wins and will also do the paid talk circuit like Sarah Palin did.
This guy does not care about America or American values.. He cares about making money and capitalizing off of the system. We are watching the most epic un-scripted reality tv show of all time right now at the expense of common sense.
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12-13-2015, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by justplugit
Spence, please explain Trump's plan to me, being I must have
missed something after seeing him interviewed at least 6 times
on the matter.
Better yet, first go back in time and answer the many
questions I have asked you to answer and you go all AWOL on me. 
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I'm sure each interview was different based on his focus group polling.
What haven't I answered?
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12-13-2015, 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
What haven't I answered?
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You'll have to go back through the threads and find them,
I have other Priorities. 
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12-13-2015, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by justplugit
You'll have to go back through the threads and find them,
I have other Priorities. 
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Likely it's all stuff that's been addressed before. People here like Jim have a very short attention span. But I'm not going to get into naming any names,
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