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06-29-2016, 06:58 AM
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I posted a link that details the entire vetting process.
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06-29-2016, 07:28 AM
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I posted a link that details the entire vetting process.
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There is no doubt that we have had a significant increase in the amount of immigrants allowed to come into this country wether on work visas or as refugees . Not to mention the illegal immigrants that are allowed to stay and continue coming .
My question is why and how does it benefit this country ?
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06-29-2016, 07:42 PM
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There is no doubt that we have had a significant increase in the amount of immigrants allowed to come into this country wether on work visas or as refugees . Not to mention the illegal immigrants that are allowed to stay and continue coming .
My question is why and how does it benefit this country ?
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Significant since when?
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06-29-2016, 08:07 AM
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I posted a link that details the entire vetting process.
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You also posted a link saying that this was the act of a jilted lover, not terrorism.
Let's dive into that a bit. We have the shooter's own words, HIS OWN WORDS, saying that he did what he did, for Allah. Not god enough for you.
We have a 3rd party who says it was a romantic squabble. And that 3rd party declaration, in your mind, has more credibility than what the shooter himself confessed.
Cue the 'twilight zone' music.
You always choose politics over facts and common sense. Always, always, always. Anything that shields your beloved from criticism.
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06-29-2016, 11:05 AM
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You also posted a link saying that this was the act of a jilted lover, not terrorism.
Let's dive into that a bit. We have the shooter's own words, HIS OWN WORDS, saying that he did what he did, for Allah. Not god enough for you.
We have a 3rd party who says it was a romantic squabble. And that 3rd party declaration, in your mind, has more credibility than what the shooter himself confessed.
Cue the 'twilight zone' music.
You always choose politics over facts and common sense. Always, always, always. Anything that shields your beloved from criticism.
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I think it's quite reasonable to believe someone with life or mental issues could be drawn to extremism and reach a breaking point. Looks like it happened with Hassan at Ft Hood and quite possibly here.
Think like a detective Jim...
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06-29-2016, 11:28 AM
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I think it's quite reasonable to believe someone with life or mental issues could be drawn to extremism and reach a breaking point. Looks like it happened with Hassan at Ft Hood and quite possibly here.
Think like a detective Jim...
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Yes, it's possible. But what evidence is there, that's more compelling than the man's own confession?
Think like someone who isn't in love with Obama, Spence...
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06-29-2016, 08:41 AM
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It's kind of fun watching Spence unravel between this thread and the caterpillar one.
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06-29-2016, 09:01 AM
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It's kind of fun watching Spence unravel between this thread and the caterpillar one.
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Maybe we should reopen the Bengazi thread
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06-29-2016, 10:57 AM
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Maybe we should reopen the Bengazi thread
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Sure, I'd like to hear your thoughts about Trey Gowdy spending 7 million taxpayer dollars to uncover essentially no new information.
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06-29-2016, 11:47 AM
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Sure, I'd like to hear your thoughts about Trey Gowdy spending 7 million taxpayer dollars to uncover essentially no new information.
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Think of how little we would have known without Trey . You would have liked that .
We know now that they intentionally didn't provide help . Speaks volumes unless you hold your fingers in your ears . And didn't those 4 dead Americans deserve due diligence ?
Also I believe the FBI has spent more on the email scandal , which could have been avoided if she wasn't corrupt .
7 million ? Pennies compared to a yearly Martha's Vinyard vaca for your spank buddy . 😊
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06-29-2016, 12:19 PM
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We know now that they intentionally didn't provide help . Speaks volumes unless you hold your fingers in your ears . And didn't those 4 dead Americans deserve due diligence ?
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I love it, 7 investigations not including the last and there's no due diligence...amazing.
As for intentionally not providing help I have no idea what you're talking about.
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06-29-2016, 09:23 AM
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....or the E-Mail server thread
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"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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06-29-2016, 09:36 AM
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Right now he's locked in the bathroom sitting in the shower, clutching his knees to his chest and rocking back and forth while his wife is banging on the door and yelling at him.
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06-29-2016, 07:37 PM
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A silly meme. Really?
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06-29-2016, 07:47 PM
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A silly meme. Really?
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A five word reply was all you had....Figured that was the direction you were heading.....
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06-30-2016, 11:02 AM
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Gowdy looked like a fool at that hearing
What does a fool look like? He looked like a prosecutor asking pertinent questions of a hostile witness. She looked and responded like a typical hostile witness. She obfuscated. Misdirected. Deceitfully parsed words. Was sarcastic, haughty, condescending. Filibustered the time allotted for questioning. She looked harsh and vindictive, a shrew-like performance, typical of her and obvious to any honest viewer. It was an expected performance. It was expected she would not honestly answer. And that was obviously on display.
The GOP reports on the talking points cleared State of any wrong doing...read more Jim.
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State (Hilary) was wrong about the video. State was wrong about the danger to the Benghazi Mission. State was wrong about Al Qaeda being defeated, insignificant. State was wrong about who to trust. As the investigation newly pointed out, it was Qadaffi loyalists (those that the administration and HRC removed from power) who helped to rescue the others at the Mission, not the Libyan administration forces that we helped to replace Qadaffi and on whom we depended. State was wrong about not adequately protecting the Mission. State, the administration, Hilary, were wrong about not wanting to appear that we were bullying or controlling the Libyan government, so not sufficiently arming the Mission. And, therefor, about not making it look like we were invading Libya by sending military to rescue our people in the mission, debating for three hours, as the attack was occurring, and as the investigation newly points out, whether or not to deploy our forces in military uniform or civilian clothes. We were wrong not to even deploy a rescue mission.
Hilary was Secretary of State. She and State were supposedly cleared of any wrong doing. Progressives have conveniently changed the meanings of several words to suit their agenda. I guess we can throw the word "wrong" into the mix.
This is one of the many similar "achievements" in Hilary's resume that make her a strong candidate for POTUS.
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07-02-2016, 01:01 PM
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State (Hilary) was wrong about the video. State was wrong about the danger to the Benghazi Mission. State was wrong about Al Qaeda being defeated, insignificant. State was wrong about who to trust. As the investigation newly pointed out, it was Qadaffi loyalists (those that the administration and HRC removed from power) who helped to rescue the others at the Mission, not the Libyan administration forces that we helped to replace Qadaffi and on whom we depended. State was wrong about not adequately protecting the Mission. State, the administration, Hilary, were wrong about not wanting to appear that we were bullying or controlling the Libyan government, so not sufficiently arming the Mission. And, therefor, about not making it look like we were invading Libya by sending military to rescue our people in the mission, debating for three hours, as the attack was occurring, and as the investigation newly points out, whether or not to deploy our forces in military uniform or civilian clothes. We were wrong not to even deploy a rescue mission.
Hilary was Secretary of State. She and State were supposedly cleared of any wrong doing. Progressives have conveniently changed the meanings of several words to suit their agenda. I guess we can throw the word "wrong" into the mix.
This is one of the many similar "achievements" in Hilary's resume that make her a strong candidate for POTUS.
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I love it, so 7 million dollars later and we've uncovered that there were frequent changes of clothing and people who should have hated us actually liked us.
Other than that nothing changes. What a bombshell 
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07-02-2016, 01:47 PM
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I love it, so 7 million dollars later and we've uncovered that there were frequent changes of clothing and people who should have hated us actually liked us.
Other than that nothing changes. What a bombshell 
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Maybe you're responding to the wrong post? My post was not about getting into the weeds about what was "new" in the Gowdy investigation (though there was more "new" than you suggest). There was, also, greater amplification and clarification of the "old news." But, then, you like to beat the old dead horse of "old news" and "nothing new," and "millions spent" mantra. That's the immediate, predictable, evasive spin you and the administration put on these things, as well as it's "time to move on." Your nothing new mantra has been beaten to death. It is tiresome and not only evasive spin, but actually ignorant. And seven million is like about zero compared to what progressives waste on their pet wants and needs.
I was responding mostly, and especially, to your not convicted of or cleared of any "wrongdoing"--another of your dead horse mantras that slyly seems to make a distinction between doing wrong and wrong doing.
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07-02-2016, 02:26 PM
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I was responding mostly, and especially, to your not convicted of or cleared of any "wrongdoing"--another of your dead horse mantras that slyly seems to make a distinction between doing wrong and wrong doing.
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That specific remark was about the video which numerous previous GOP led investigations certainly did refute the argument that the administration improperly blamed the attack on the video versus terrorism.
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07-02-2016, 08:50 PM
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That specific remark was about the video which numerous previous GOP led investigations certainly did refute the argument that the administration improperly blamed the attack on the video versus terrorism.
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You've used the remark about other things including the whole array of Benghazi hearings and investigations. Your remark is tiresome and, at the least and most generous, "improper." And it is certainly improper to say that the argument that the administration wrongly blamed the video was refuted. "[I]mproperly" blaming the video was wrong. It was doing something wrong. I think that would actually be "wrongdoing."
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07-11-2016, 10:48 AM
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I saw that also
disgusting
I don't see these people assimilating very well when our cultures are so different. It's a problem, a huge problem.
There should be zero tolerance, conform or leave
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The United States Constitution does not exist to grant you rights; those rights are inherent within you. Rather it exists to frame a limited government so that those natural rights can be exercised freely.
1984 was a warning, not a guidebook!
It's time more people spoke up with the truth. Every time we let a leftist lie go uncorrected, the commies get stronger.
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07-11-2016, 10:50 AM
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I saw that also
disgusting
I don't see these people assimilating very well when our cultures are so different. It's a problem, a huge problem.
There should be zero tolerance, conform or leave
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But these are the people Spence wants us to welcome with open arms.
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Conservatism is not about leaving people behind. Conservatism is about empowering people to catch up, to give them tools at their disposal that make it possible for them to access all the hope, all the promise, all the opportunity that America offers. - Marco Rubio
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07-11-2016, 11:28 AM
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he is turning his life around and needs to be taught good vs evil
there are creeps everywhere
I'm sure the humanitarians will step in and change his ways
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The United States Constitution does not exist to grant you rights; those rights are inherent within you. Rather it exists to frame a limited government so that those natural rights can be exercised freely.
1984 was a warning, not a guidebook!
It's time more people spoke up with the truth. Every time we let a leftist lie go uncorrected, the commies get stronger.
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