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07-05-2016, 08:05 PM
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You don't need to show intent. She showed gross negligence.
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That's not how the law works.
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07-05-2016, 08:36 PM
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That's not how the law works.
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Yes it is
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07-05-2016, 09:14 PM
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That's not how the law works.
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This is a quote from the FBI director today....
"Our investigation looked at whether there is evidence classified information was improperly stored or transmitted on that personal system, in violation of a federal statute making it a felony to mishandle classified information either intentionally or in a grossly negligent way, or a second statute making it a misdemeanor to knowingly remove classified information from appropriate systems or storage facilities."
What part of "violation of a federal statute making it a felony to mishandle classified information.....in a grossly negligent way" don't you understand????
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07-06-2016, 04:14 AM
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As I suspected Some are unable to accept she didn't commit a crime and is not going to jail and this saddens them .. for me the issues has never been what she and her people did wasn't stupid or irresponsible and I dont disagree with those who feel that way .. My argument has always against the Jail time crowd like birthers no mater the evidence it's in their heads
I only hope that those who hate Hillary would put the same effort looking into the Donald and his Trustworthiness experience his knowledge of world politics his Maybe Crimes and temperament to be POTUS.. and have the same frank conversation ..just an idea
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07-06-2016, 07:10 AM
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As I suspected Some are unable to accept she didn't commit a crime and is not going to jail
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That's not what the FBI determined at all however it does sadden me that she won't be going to jail ....for this crime at least .
I'm holding out hope that karma and justice eventually catch up to her .
Question ... Does it sadden you that she lied through her teeth ?
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07-06-2016, 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
As I suspected Some are unable to accept she didn't commit a crime and is not going to jail and this saddens them .. for me the issues has never been what she and her people did wasn't stupid or irresponsible and I dont disagree with those who feel that way .. My argument has always against the Jail time crowd like birthers no mater the evidence it's in their heads
I only hope that those who hate Hillary would put the same effort looking into the Donald and his Trustworthiness experience his knowledge of world politics his Maybe Crimes and temperament to be POTUS.. and have the same frank conversation ..just an idea
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Comey said she broke laws and the laws she broke are felonies, he said he did not have something that was prosecutable.
BTW - a lot of us that think Hillary is unfit to be president feel Trump is unfit to be president. So get off your high horse.
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07-06-2016, 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnR
Comey said she broke laws and the laws she broke are felonies, he said he did not have something that was prosecutable.
BTW - a lot of us that think Hillary is unfit to be president feet Trump is unfit to be president. So get off your high horse.
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And isn't the FBI basically making the case she lied under oath ?
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07-06-2016, 10:54 AM
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Comey said she broke laws and the laws she broke are felonies, he said he did not have something that was prosecutable.
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He did not, specifically he said there was evidence of "potential violations of the statutes regarding the handling of classified information."
That's not the same thing as saying Clinton committed a felony. |
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07-07-2016, 04:31 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnR
Comey said she broke laws and the laws she broke are felonies, he said he did not have something that was prosecutable.
BTW - a lot of us that think Hillary is unfit to be president feel Trump is unfit to be president. So get off your high horse.
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John you may express your feeling he is unfit and 1 other .. the lot of us remain silent focused on Hillary .. So asking for equal scrutiny of Donald is being on a high horse ... |
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07-07-2016, 05:59 AM
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this administration continues to set a remarkably low bar for the next administration....
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07-07-2016, 08:27 AM
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this administration continues to set a remarkably low bar for the next administration....
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Which could come in really useful for either candidate
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07-07-2016, 08:23 AM
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John you may express your feeling he is unfit and 1 other .. the lot of us remain silent focused on Hillary .. So asking for equal scrutiny of Donald is being on a high horse ...
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I am not sure what you mean. Both are unfit IMO to be President. The fact that the Nation, at large, will need to chose between them is horrible. I really hope we can make it through the next 4-12 years. There may be a small chance I will vote for one of these two - we are beyond the lesser of two weevils - but too much is at stake not to vote.
The problem I have is I thought (and now I KNOW) Hillary broke the law, thinks she is above the masses, and she is a a horrible person. Trump I know is a horrible person but I don't know if he has broken the law.
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07-06-2016, 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
As I suspected Some are unable to accept she didn't commit a crime and is not going to jail and this saddens them .. for me the issues has never been what she and her people did wasn't stupid or irresponsible and I dont disagree with those who feel that way .. My argument has always against the Jail time crowd like birthers no mater the evidence it's in their heads
Most of the anti-Hillary posters also believed that she would not be indicted, so that was accepted beforehand. Comay didn't say she didn't commit a crime. He said, essentially, that the evidence wasn't strong enough to successfully prosecute. The reason for that could be political as well as evidential since the Justice Dept. would have to prosecute. What he did say about what she did is very damning. For those of us who don't believe her, and Comay pointed out her obvious lies in the matter, the evidence he presented did show she violated the statute. But recommending indictment then having her acquitted by the Justice Dept. would not make the FBI look good.
I only hope that those who hate Hillary would put the same effort looking into the Donald and his Trustworthiness experience his knowledge of world politics his Maybe Crimes and temperament to be POTUS.. and have the same frank conversation ..just an idea
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The anti-Hilary posters all have, looked negatively into the Donald's reputation, but a choice has to be made. Hillary already has a political resume which is one of failed policies and a rigid temperament to stick to and defend those policies, which should be enough to say no to her. |
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07-06-2016, 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
For those of us who don't believe her, and Comay pointed out her obvious lies in the matter, the evidence he presented did show she violated the statute. But recommending indictment then having her acquitted by the Justice Dept. would not make the FBI look good.
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better to have tried and failed, then not having tried at all.
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07-06-2016, 08:52 AM
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What part of "violation of a federal statute making it a felony to mishandle classified information.....in a grossly negligent way" don't you understand????
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He didn't say that was the finding, that was the initial inquiry...which they found didn't have sufficient evidence to prosecute. |
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07-06-2016, 11:20 AM
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He didn't say that was the finding, that was the initial inquiry...which they found didn't have sufficient evidence to prosecute.
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He stated that classified material WAS found on her server....
So SOMEONE is guilty of intentionally or negligently mis-handling classified material.
So who is it???
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07-06-2016, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
He stated that classified material WAS found on her server....
So SOMEONE is guilty of intentionally or negligently mis-handling classified material.
So who is it???
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Considering the IG report showed a history of sloppy information handling well before Clinton, the amount of classified information was fairly low, there isn't any malicious intent and that it doesn't appear anything bad is known to happen as a result...I doubt we'll ever know.
It's not like they're going to go make an example of people when the policies have already been tightened up. |
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