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07-28-2016, 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
Some joke
Russia, if you're listening,I hope you're able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing; I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press."
let see the verbal gymnastics on this one ...
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What verbal gynastics?
He didn't ask them to hack into anyone's computer and the 30,000 emails he hopes they find. According to Hillary the 30,000 emails were only the personal emails that she deleted. Could there have been information that wasn't personal that she deleted after all? No, she would never lie.
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07-28-2016, 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by ecduzitgood
What verbal gynastics?
He didn't ask them to hack into anyone's computer and the 30,000 emails he hopes they find. According to Hillary the 30,000 emails were only the personal emails that she deleted. Could there have been information that wasn't personal that she deleted after all? No, she would never lie.
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Hopefully, they find the 20,000,000 emails that were on the RNC's server that the RNC deleted - right?
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07-28-2016, 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
Hopefully, they find the 20,000,000 emails that were on the RNC's server that the RNC deleted - right?
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Maybe the RNC takes security a little more seriously...I mean the other sides servers are just getting hacked left and right
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07-28-2016, 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
Maybe the RNC takes security a little more seriously...I mean the other sides servers are just getting hacked left and right
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So it was ok to use private email accts then but not recently? When did the law change? Do we know the RNC's servers were or were not hacked?
Is there a difference?
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07-28-2016, 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
So it was ok to use private email accts then but not recently? When did the law change? Do we know the RNC's servers were or were not hacked?
Is there a difference?
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Who else lied about what they did? That's one difference.
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07-28-2016, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
Who else lied about what they did? That's one difference.
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Are you familiar w/what happened?
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07-28-2016, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
Are you familiar w/what happened?
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Somewhat.
I know she said that she turned over all of her work emails. Except for the 3,000 that the FBI found on their own.
I also know that she said she never sent any emails that were flagged as classified. Except for the 3 she sent that were flagged as classified.
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07-28-2016, 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
So it was ok to use private email accts then but not recently? When did the law change? Do we know the RNC's servers were or were not hacked?
Is there a difference?
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You have always been able to use a Personal (not Private) E-mail accounts for Personal E-mail....you're NOT allowed to use personal e-mail accounts for classified information (as was determined, via FBI Investigators, as actually happening).
and no we don't know if the RNC was or wasn't hacked....but we do know that the DNC server was hacked by the fact that someone lost their job (Temporarily) over published, leaked e-mails.
so why don't we work in Factual Land and not What-If World.
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07-28-2016, 10:07 AM
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From Wikipedia - looks like potentially lots of public work happened on the private server. We'll never know what was in those emails as they were deleted.
"House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform[edit]
The House Oversight committee in an interim staff report, released on June 18, 2007:[18]
At least eighty-eight Republican National Committee email accounts were granted to senior Bush administration officials, not "just a handful" as previously reported by the White House spokesperson Dana Perino in March 2007. Her estimate was later revised to "about fifty." Officials with accounts included: Karl Rove, the President’s senior advisor; Andrew Card, the former White House Chief of Staff; Ken Mehlman, the former White House Director of Political Affairs; and many other officials in the Office of Political Affairs, the Office of Communications, and the Office of the Vice President.
The RNC has 140,216 emails sent or received by Karl Rove. Over half of these emails (75,374) were sent to or received from individuals using official ".gov" email accounts. Other users of RNC email accounts include former Director of Political Affairs Sara Taylor (66,018 emails) and Deputy Director of Political Affairs Scott Jennings (35,198 emails). These email accounts were used by White House officials for official purposes, such as communicating with federal agencies about federal appointments and policies.
Of the 88 White House officials who received RNC email accounts, the RNC has preserved no emails for 51 officials.
There is evidence that the Office of White House Counsel under Alberto Gonzales may have known that White House officials were using RNC email accounts for official business, but took no action to preserve these presidential records.
The evidence obtained by the Committee indicates that White House officials used their RNC email accounts in a manner that circumvented these requirements. At this point in the investigation, it is not possible to determine precisely how many presidential records may have been destroyed by the RNC. Given the heavy reliance by White House officials on RNC email accounts, the high rank of the White House officials involved, and the large quantity of missing emails, the potential violation of the Presidential Records Act may be extensive."
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07-28-2016, 10:42 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaulS
From Wikipedia - looks like potentially lots of public work happened on the private server. We'll never know what was in those emails as they were deleted.
"House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform[edit]
The House Oversight committee in an interim staff report, released on June 18, 2007:[18]
At least eighty-eight Republican National Committee email accounts were granted to senior Bush administration officials, not "just a handful" as previously reported by the White House spokesperson Dana Perino in March 2007. Her estimate was later revised to "about fifty." Officials with accounts included: Karl Rove, the President’s senior advisor; Andrew Card, the former White House Chief of Staff; Ken Mehlman, the former White House Director of Political Affairs; and many other officials in the Office of Political Affairs, the Office of Communications, and the Office of the Vice President.
The RNC has 140,216 emails sent or received by Karl Rove. Over half of these emails (75,374) were sent to or received from individuals using official ".gov" email accounts. Other users of RNC email accounts include former Director of Political Affairs Sara Taylor (66,018 emails) and Deputy Director of Political Affairs Scott Jennings (35,198 emails). These email accounts were used by White House officials for official purposes, such as communicating with federal agencies about federal appointments and policies.
Of the 88 White House officials who received RNC email accounts, the RNC has preserved no emails for 51 officials.
There is evidence that the Office of White House Counsel under Alberto Gonzales may have known that White House officials were using RNC email accounts for official business, but took no action to preserve these presidential records.
The evidence obtained by the Committee indicates that White House officials used their RNC email accounts in a manner that circumvented these requirements. At this point in the investigation, it is not possible to determine precisely how many presidential records may have been destroyed by the RNC. Given the heavy reliance by White House officials on RNC email accounts, the high rank of the White House officials involved, and the large quantity of missing emails, the potential violation of the Presidential Records Act may be extensive."
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2007....really??? the DNC was hacked 2 weeks ago.
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