|
 |
|
|
|
 |
|
 |
|
Political Threads This section is for Political Threads - Enter at your own risk. If you say you don't want to see what someone posts - don't read it :hihi: |
09-15-2016, 07:14 AM
|
#1
|
Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 10,300
|
Have I mentioned Racism in my posts other than to mention what Colin Powell thinks of the birther movement (and I guess the Republican Presidential candidate Donald Trump).
However, since you brought it up. - It's crazy to think the Birther movement didn't have any racism involved w/it.
But back to the orginal point - in that absense of any real voter fraud do you agree that the NC voter ID law (and the other aspects like closing polling places, shorting voting times, etc.) was meant to prevent Blacks from voting?
|
|
|
|
09-15-2016, 07:19 AM
|
#2
|
Super Moderator
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Georgetown MA
Posts: 18,205
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by PaulS
However, since you brought it up. - It's crazy to think the Birther movement didn't have any racism involved w/it.
|
Well, Explain it to me?
|
"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
|
|
|
09-15-2016, 07:21 AM
|
#3
|
Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 20,441
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
Well, Explain it to me?
|
(1) Colin Powell said so.
(2) it makes conservatives look hateful
That, to liberals, more than suffices as evidence of racism.
|
|
|
|
09-15-2016, 08:09 AM
|
#4
|
Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 10,300
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
Well, Explain it to me?
|
The many, many racist signs which were so prevelant early on.
|
|
|
|
09-15-2016, 08:25 AM
|
#5
|
Super Moderator
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Georgetown MA
Posts: 18,205
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by PaulS
The many, many racist signs which were so prevelant early on.
|
were any of those signs being held by elected officials?
there are kooks and a-holes in all walks of life.....just because some racist nut cases show up in support of something doesn't make that initial thing racist.
I asked how does asking somebody for a birth certificate or proof of citizenship meet the definition of racism.
was it racist for people to ask for Ted Cruz's proof?
|
"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
|
|
|
09-15-2016, 08:26 AM
|
#6
|
Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 12,632
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
was it racist for people to ask for Ted Cruz's proof?
|
and John McCain
|
|
|
|
09-15-2016, 08:46 AM
|
#7
|
Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 10,300
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
I asked how does asking somebody for a birth certificate or proof of citizenship meet the definition of racism.
|
Why don't you ask someone who claimed it meet the defintion of racism?
|
|
|
|
09-15-2016, 08:57 AM
|
#8
|
Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 20,441
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by PaulS
Why don't you ask someone who claimed it meet the defintion of racism?
|
For Gods sake man, you said those id laws were put in, specifically to suppress black voter turnout.
So now you are claiming, that suppressing black votes, is not racist?
|
|
|
|
09-15-2016, 09:06 AM
|
#9
|
Super Moderator
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Georgetown MA
Posts: 18,205
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by PaulS
Why don't you ask someone who claimed it meet the defintion of racism?
|
I did...
Quote:
Originally Posted by PaulS
However, since you brought it up. - It's crazy to think the Birther movement didn't have any racism involved w/it.
|
|
"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
|
|
|
09-15-2016, 09:23 AM
|
#10
|
Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Somewhere between OOB & west of Watch Hill
Posts: 35,273
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim in CT
This is surreal. We keep asking why the id process is more burdensome for blacks, and you will not answer. You dodge. You re-direct. You insult. But you cannot answer the question directly.
Colin Powell? Now that his emails were hacked, we really know what he thinks of Hilary (ambitious, full of hubris) and her pervert husband (still di*king bimbos in his home!!!).
Of course, some racists were birthers. That doesn't mean questioning his birth, was necessarily racist. Some of them weren't racist, just paranoid or stupid or uninformed.
Anyway, one final time...please tell us why it's harder for blacks to get this id, than whites.
|
Dog Whistles. If one makes everything a dog whistle and condition people to yelp, you can ignore parsing at a deeper level.
Dog Whistle: Asking for birth certificate is racist
Dog Whistle: Strong Border security is racist
Dog Whistle: Illegal immigration is racist
Dog Whistle: Requiring people proving eligibility to vote is racist.
We have some of the most lax border security, citizenship, and voting laws in the world, yet they are still racist.
Quote:
Originally Posted by spence
Use the brain Luke!
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
Use Common Sense, Jar Jar
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nebe
Re structuring voting precincts, closing polling areas in urban areas could be used as an example.
Personally I don't think that blacks are suppressed from voting
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
|
I would think if you apply the same rules for everyone that would not be racist. Punish the ones that violate that. As for Gerrymandering - that is a game the Dems play better than Rs. I guess that is why in a blue state we only hear it happening in Red states
|
~Fix the Bait~ ~Pogies Forever~
Striped Bass Fishing - All Stripers
Kobayashi Maru Election - there is no way to win.
Apocalypse is Coming:
|
|
|
09-15-2016, 09:26 AM
|
#11
|
Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 10,300
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
I did...
|
You have bad reading comprehension.
You said "I asked how does asking somebody for a birth certificate or proof of citizenship meet the definition of racism."
and I said "Why don't you ask someone who claimed it meet the defintion of racism?"
and you quoted me as saying "However, since you brought it up. - It's crazy to think the Birther movement didn't have any racism involved w/it."
Aren't they 2 different things? I never said that asking for a birth certificate or a proof of citizenship met the definition of racism. I'm sure when President Obama first ran for Senate or was put on the foreign relations committeed he was asked for his birth certificate.
|
|
|
|
09-15-2016, 07:20 AM
|
#12
|
Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 20,441
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by PaulS
Have I mentioned Racism in my posts other than to mention what Colin Powell thinks of the birther movement (and I guess the Republican Presidential candidate Donald Trump).
However, since you brought it up. - It's crazy to think the Birther movement didn't have any racism involved w/it.
But back to the orginal point - in that absense of any real voter fraud do you agree that the NC voter ID law (and the other aspects like closing polling places, shorting voting times, etc.) was meant to prevent Blacks from voting?
|
"Have I mentioned Racism in my posts "
Are you feeling OK? Seriously, are you OK? Because you have said a couple of times lately, that "Republicans have no use for minorities. "
"It's crazy to think the Birther movement didn't have any racism involved w/it"
Ah, but you didn't say there was "some" racism. You said the movement itself was racist. Two very different things. I don't think liberals even notice anymore, when they accuse conservatives of racism. It's like breathing to them (and you) now. You don't even notice when you are doing it anymore.
|
|
|
|
09-15-2016, 08:23 AM
|
#13
|
Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 10,300
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim in CT
"Have I mentioned Racism in my posts "
Are you feeling OK? Seriously, are you OK? Because you have said a couple of times lately, that "Republicans have no use for minorities. "So you think my saying that is saying they are racist?
"It's crazy to think the Birther movement didn't have any racism involved w/it"
Ah, but you didn't say there was "some" racism.Actually I think you need to go back and read what I wrote I never mentioned racism 1 way or the other. I repeated what the person you hold up to show the Repubs. appeal to minorities said about the birher movement. You said the movement itself was racist. Pls. point out where I said that. Two very different things. I don't think liberals even notice anymore, when they accuse conservatives of racism. It's like breathing to them (and you) now. You don't even notice when you are doing it anymore.
|
Can you pls. point out where I accused conservatives of racism?
|
|
|
|
09-15-2016, 08:53 AM
|
#14
|
Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 20,441
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by PaulS
Can you pls. point out where I accused conservatives of racism?
|
Do you have a concussion?
You said that the GOP has no use for minorities.
Here are some other things you said on this thread, these are exact quotes...
"you can't tell me that those Repub. Legisl. put those restrictions in for any other reason than to keep minorities from being able to vote"
"Funny you mention Colin Powell - he just said the whole Birther movement was racist. "
"The many, many racist signs which were so prevelant early on. "
90% of your posts accuse conservatives of racism. The other 10% of your posts, consist of you stubbornly saying that you never accused anyone of racism.
George Bush - saved a million lives in Africa, promoted many blacks to very high profile positions (but he was called a racist by your side)
John McCain - adopted an orphaned girl from Bangladesh (the New York Times published a front page story, totally false, that he fathered the girl with a mistress). Read that again. Adopting an orphan from Bangladesh, is one of the finest expressions of love a human being can contemplate. And instead of giving him credit for that, it was used as a club against him.
Mitt Romney - has a black grandson. For that, the family was ridiculed by a black host at MSNBC who has her own program and is paid a king's ransom, that's how highly she is thought of.
If these GOP leaders are racists, they really stink at being racist. They need to take some lessons on how to really be racist.
|
|
|
|
09-15-2016, 07:32 AM
|
#15
|
Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 12,632
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by PaulS
Have I mentioned Racism in my posts?
|
when you don't in some form or fashion, it's a shocker 
|
|
|
|
09-15-2016, 10:34 AM
|
#16
|
Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 12,632
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by PaulS
Have I mentioned Racism in my posts?
|
nearly every post in this thread
it's amusing...keep going...you're on record pace
|
|
|
|
09-15-2016, 10:38 AM
|
#17
|
Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 10,300
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by scottw
nearly every post in this thread
it's amusing...keep going...you're on record pace
|
Actually your snarkiness is amusing. I'll get back to you when I need some customer service 
|
|
|
|
09-15-2016, 10:50 AM
|
#18
|
Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 12,632
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by PaulS
Actually your snarkiness is amusing. I'll get back to you when I need some customer service 
|
glad you approve and find amusement....you know that I love you 
|
|
|
|
09-15-2016, 10:57 AM
|
#19
|
Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 10,300
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by scottw
glad you approve and find amusement....you know that I love you 
|
Thank you and I love you too 
|
|
|
|
Thread Tools |
|
Display Modes |
Rate This Thread |
Hybrid Mode
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:38 AM.
|
| |