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			01-04-2017, 03:57 PM
			
			
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		 Never mind spring, bring on some offshore. I don't know why you guys stoop to the level of nonsense that some of the fools on here spill. It is truly baby talk from the sour grapes brigade. Nebe and Jim will at least swallow their pride and admit it is good for USA regardless of their disdain for the president elect. That used to be called being a bigger man. I truly believe the knot will stay in some members panties regardless of anything positive coming from D.C. 
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			01-04-2017, 04:07 PM
			
			
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				Nebe and Jim will at least swallow their pride and admit it is good for USA regardless of their disdain for the president elect. That used to be called being a bigger man. I truly believe the knot will stay in some members panties regardless of anything positive coming from D.C. 
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 The 700 jobs is fantastic for those families and the community.  Since Trump has enacted no policy it is hard to give credit to anyone other than the bigger economics of the situation.  I also question the corporate wellfare that is being (potentially) promised a la carrier. We will see. He promised jobs, 700 is a start.
 
As far as the knot, there was one there over the last 8 years in exactly the opposite direction.  
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-04-2017, 04:30 PM
			
			
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				The 700 jobs is fantastic for those families and the community.  Since Trump has enacted no policy it is hard to give credit to anyone other than the bigger economics of the situation.  I also question the corporate wellfare that is being (potentially) promised a la carrier. We will see. He promised jobs, 700 is a start. 
 
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 "Since Trump has enacted no policy it is hard to give credit to anyone other than the bigger economics of the situation."
 
That's true in a literal sense, but the CEO of Ford said the decision to invest in Michigan, was in part, due to anticipated improved manufacturing climate that Trump will likely pursue.
 
To put it another way...you think the DJIA would be flirting with 20,000 if Hilary won the election?  Come on...
 
"I also question the corporate wellfare that is being (potentially) promised a la carrier"
 
That is a state issue.  The tax breaks were offered by the state of Indiana.  Trump also likely threatened them with tariffs, but that threat wasn't unique to Carrier.
 
I don't like the feds, or the states for that matter, picking individual winners and losers.  I didn't like it when Obama did it, and I don't like it now.  
 
"As far as the knot, there was one there over the last 8 years in exactly the opposite direction"
 
Not like this.  There weren't massive protests before Obama got sworn in 8 years ago.  Obviously Trump is different, he is more overtly offensive and obnoxious, in a sophomoric kind of way.  He's like the idiot in high school who thinks that fart jokes are the funniest thing ever.  Obama's offensiveness was a bit deeper beneath the surface, and a bit more nuanced I guess, but not much.  
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-04-2017, 05:12 PM
			
			
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				"Since Trump has enacted no policy it is hard to give credit to anyone other than the bigger economics of the situation." 
 
That's true in a literal sense, but the CEO of Ford said the decision to invest in Michigan, was in part, due to anticipated improved manufacturing climate that Trump will likely pursue. 
 
 
"As far as the knot, there was one there over the last 8 years in exactly the opposite direction" 
 
Not like this.  There weren't massive protests before Obama got sworn in 8 years ago.  Obviously Trump is different, he is more overtly offensive and obnoxious, in a sophomoric kind of way.  He's like the idiot in high school who thinks that fart jokes are the funniest thing ever.  Obama's offensiveness was a bit deeper beneath the surface, and a bit more nuanced I guess, but not much. 
			
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 No, there was widespread racism and the whole northern thing... *
 
The Dow has done pretty well under Obama... We will see what the next couple of years brings
 
*This does not imply everyone who disagrees with Obama or criticized him was or is a racist..
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			01-04-2017, 08:01 PM
			
			
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				No, there was widespread racism and the whole northern thing... * 
 
 
The Dow has done pretty well under Obama... We will see what the next couple of years brings 
 
 
*This does not imply everyone who disagrees with Obama or criticized him was or is a racist.. 
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 "No, there was widespread racism and the whole northern thing"
 
Yawn.  Your evidence of that is what, exactly?    Your side really, really needs to put that card away until there's actual racism to eradicate.
 
"The Dow has done pretty well under Obama"
 
Yes, it did.  However, you didn't answer the question I asked, so I will repeat it.  Do you seriously think the Dow would be where it is, if Hilary had won?  Any chance you can answer that, without patting Obama on the back?
 
"We will see what the next couple of years brings"
 
we are ripe for a recession.  
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-04-2017, 08:09 PM
			
			
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				"No, there was widespread racism and the whole northern thing" 
 
Yawn.  Your evidence of that is what, exactly?    Your side really, really needs to put that card away until there's actual racism to eradicate. 
 
"The Dow has done pretty well under Obama" 
 
Yes, it did.  However, you didn't answer the question I asked, so I will repeat it.  Do you seriously think the Dow would be where it is, if Hilary had won?  Any chance you can answer that, without patting Obama on the back? 
 
"We will see what the next couple of years brings" 
 
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 I think it is likely the Dow would be somewhere still around 18000 if she won. Missed that question on my phone..
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