Pete Rose Yeah or Nay?

[The Dad Fisherman]

Do you think Bill Belichik should go into the hall? I mean the whole cheating thing.


I think its Bull#^&#^&#^&#^&....but their are plenty of people that will say he shouldn't go in. Over what he did to supposedly influence games.

Rose isn't in because he never apologized for doing it...that's it. So it isn't really the act that kept him out...it was the lack of contrition.

[afterhours]

[QUOTE=The Dad Fisherman;1123886]Do you think Bill Belichik should go into the hall? I mean the whole cheating thing.

I think its Bull#^&#^&#^&#^&....but their are plenty of people that will say he shouldn't go in. Over what he did to supposedly influence games.

you do mean the filming of opposing coaches from non approved areas right? i'm sure that had a big influence on games....

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by afterhours

you do mean the filming of opposing coaches from non approved areas right? i'm sure that had a big influence on games....

Oh, I think Bill is a lock for the HoF.

But my point is why shouldn't Pete go in if Bill is going in. They were both found to have done something questionable to the "integrity" of the game.

And So what if Pete bet on games....any proof he did anything to change the outcome of a game?

He belongs in just from his resume as a player.

If he was betting as a coach he gets fired.
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[nightfighter]

4256 hits..... Just consider that number.

[Guppy]

absolutely in, taking drugs is worse (cheating ?)

[Slipknot]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Oh, I think Bill is a lock for the HoF.

But my point is why shouldn't Pete go in if Bill is going in. They were both found to have done something questionable to the "integrity" of the game.

And So what if Pete bet on games....any proof he did anything to change the outcome of a game?

He belongs in just from his resume as a player.

If he was betting as a coach he gets fired.
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Are you seriously comparing gambling on your own sport with one time breaking a rule where you tape defensive signals from field level instead of up higher under cover? The tape from that Jets game never was used to influence games, it was turned in.

If you ask me, it is held against Pete that he denied it for so long and hard. One would think the accomplishments on the field are what make an athlete a hall of famer, but if he is banned, he is banned.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by Slipknot

Are you seriously comparing gambling on your own sport with one time breaking a rule where you tape defensive signals from field level instead of up higher under cover? The tape from that Jets game never was used to influence games, it was turned in..

Yes, Yes I am....I'm showing the ridiculousness of this by comparing a similarly ridiculous example. And I guarantee you that when Bill's time comes up to get inducted, there will be a few select idiots bringing this exact argument up.

and gambling on your sports is no big deal as long as you aren't throwing games to win. The way Rose played the game, he obviously wasn't trying to throw anything.

Originally Posted by Slipknot

If you ask me, it is held against Pete that he denied it for so long and hard.

I'm pretty sure I said the same thing above.

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Rose isn't in because he never apologized for doing it...that's it. So it isn't really the act that kept him out...it was the lack of contrition.

[jettyjockey18]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Do you think Bill Belichik should go into the hall? I mean the whole cheating thing.


I think its Bull#^&#^&#^&#^&....but their are plenty of people that will say he shouldn't go in. Over what he did to supposedly influence games.

Rose isn't in because he never apologized for doing it...that's it. So it isn't really the act that kept him out...it was the lack of contrition.

Rose isn't in the HOF because he committed the only truly unforgiveable sin in professional sports, he gambled...and he didn't just gamble, he gambled on games he directly influenced as a player/manager...His defense was that he always bet on the Reds to win, but what about the games he didn't bet on??...when you've got a rep as a degenerate gambler and don't bet on a game you're involved in, doesn't that say just as much as the games you bet on to win???...