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11-18-2017, 04:35 PM
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he's violating her personal space
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It's not assault is the point. Not a crime. Improper, offensive, yes. Sticking his tongue down her throat may qualify, but probably tough to prosecute because she agreed to rehearse a kissing scene and he kissed her. Accusations against Moore, Spacey, H.W.Bush, the acts Trump bragged about in the video, etc. are crimes of physical sexual assault. The acts in the picture of Franken are not. Certainly tasteless.
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11-18-2017, 05:06 PM
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It's not assault is the point. Not a crime. Improper, offensive, yes. Sticking his tongue down her throat may qualify, but probably tough to prosecute because she agreed to rehearse a kissing scene and he kissed her. Accusations against Moore, Spacey, H.W.Bush, the acts Trump bragged about in the video, etc. are crimes of physical sexual assault. The acts in the picture of Franken are not. Certainly tasteless.
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I have said the same thing ... they dont care he never touched her or that theres a guy in a chair sleeping next to her (they were waiting to fly some place or she had body armor on and could see her breasts or that she accepted his apology or that he wasn't in a position of power
or like Moore or Trump or weinstein or in office
I have noticed the absent of any criticism involving Trump seeing he has said nothing about Moore .. just Whataboutism comments about franken |
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11-18-2017, 08:13 PM
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I have said the same thing ... they dont care he never touched her or that theres a guy in a chair sleeping next to her (they were waiting to fly some place or she had body armor on and could see her breasts or that she accepted his apology or that he wasn't in a position of power
or like Moore or Trump or weinstein or in office
I have noticed the absent of any criticism involving Trump seeing he has said nothing about Moore .. just Whataboutism comments about franken
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The Franken photo is no evidence of assault or a crime. It's rock solid evidence that he's a juvenile horse's ass. Not fit for the US Senate. He's a great candidate if they re-make the "Porky's" movies. US Senate? Not so much. Moore is also unfit I think. |
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11-18-2017, 09:05 PM
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Sticking his tongue down her throat may qualify, but probably tough to prosecute
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brilliant! |
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11-18-2017, 10:32 PM
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brilliant!
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Nice selective quote. No surprise....
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11-18-2017, 11:01 PM
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Nice selective quote. No surprise....
the acts Trump bragged about in the video, etc. are crimes of physical sexual assault. The acts in the picture of Franken are not.
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Franken was standing over an "actual" woman being photographed as he was about to giver her a grab while she was sleeping...
Trump's victim in your example is imaginary, unless he grabbed Billy Bush  ....Franken's victim is right there in the photo... |
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11-19-2017, 05:02 AM
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Franken was standing over an "actual" woman being photographed as he was about to giver her a grab while she was sleeping...
Trump's victim in your example is imaginary, unless he grabbed Billy Bush ....Franken's victim is right there in the photo... |
Your dishonesty is alarming.
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11-19-2017, 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted by spence
Your dishonesty is alarming.
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your feigned indignation is hilarious......
what part of "Moore should go to jail" confused you?
regarding Trump and Franken.....it's a continuing theme with the left, far more concerned and offended by what a republican might have said than what their own democrats actually did...that is intellectual dishonesty
"In order to retain any moral authority on the issue of sexual abuse and harassment, Democrats must decide that sexual abuse and harassment is wrong no matter who does it. Only then will they be nominally, morally, better than the Roy Moore acolytes who compare molesting a 14-year-old girl to stealing a lawn mower."
https://www.thedailybeast.com/dear-l...or-these-times
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11-19-2017, 09:19 AM
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your feigned indignation is hilarious......
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You honestly think Franken was about to grab a sleeping woman's breasts while smiling for the camera? That's ridiculous. It's a photo in poor taste, not groping. |
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11-19-2017, 09:55 AM
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Trump's victim in your example is imaginary, unless he grabbed Billy Bush ....Franken's victim is right there in the photo... |
Let me make it easier for you to understand. Trump bragged about criminal behavior. The victims are the people he groped and forced himself on. The 13+ women who say he did those things to them aren't imaginary.
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11-19-2017, 10:11 AM
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Let me make it easier for you to understand. Trump bragged about criminal behavior. The victims are the people he groped and forced himself on. The 13+ women who say he did those things to them aren't imaginary.
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But according to Trump are all liars. The double standard here is amazing.
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11-19-2017, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by spence
But according to Trump are all liars. The double standard here is amazing.
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The future ain't what it used to be. --Yogi Berra
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11-19-2017, 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
But according to Trump are all liars. The double standard here is amazing.
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Yes it is. According to your side, Mike Pences rule about not being alone with a woman other han his wife is sexist, but bill Clinton and Ted Kennedy are solid friends of feminism. That makes all kinds f sense. Of course there is hypocrisy on my side, but not to this degree.
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11-19-2017, 10:15 AM
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Let me make it easier for you to understand. Trump bragged about criminal behavior. The victims are the people he groped and forced himself on. The 13+ women who say he did those things to them aren't imaginary.
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I think spence would call it painting a mental picture in bad taste, not actual groping... 
if the women you mentioned want to come forward, file charges...sue..etc...I'm ok with that and whatever the courts decide
I would expect Trump to invoke the "one free grope rule" that the dems and feminists created to defend Clinton back in the day...I think that's the same one that Biden operates under |
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11-19-2017, 10:49 AM
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The 13+ women who say he did those things to them aren't imaginary.
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Biden can bring them to the debates in 2019  |
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11-20-2017, 12:47 PM
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It's not assault is the point. Not a crime. Improper, offensive, yes. Sticking his tongue down her throat may qualify.....but.......
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how about this? 
http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/20/politi...010/index.html |
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