Fusion GPS

[Pete F.]

I think the biggest problem is that people confuse an intelligence dossier with facts.
An intelligence dossier is the reason you investigate further. The special prosecutor is investigating and we will see what he finds.
My opinion is that Trump has always pushed the legal envelope in business and I don't think he sees politics any differently.
Few of us are not guilty of that in some way.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

I think the biggest problem is that people confuse an intelligence dossier with facts.
An intelligence dossier is the reason you investigate further.

to be clear...this is not an American or British Intelligence dossier...this is a PRIVATE dossier...written by a former intelligence officer contracted by Clinton and the DNC as part of a dirt digging mission...of which.."Parts of the dossier have been confirmed, while others have yet to be proved or disproved,[8][9] including, as 2017 drew to a close, the dossier's allegations of collusion.[10][11] The media, intelligence community, as well as most experts have therefore treated the dossier with caution"


from wiki

After Trump emerged as the probable Republican nominee, attorney Marc Elias of the Perkins Coie law firm retained American research firm Fusion GPS to conduct opposition research about Trump on behalf of the Democratic National Committee and Clinton presidential campaign. Fusion GPS later contracted Steele to compile the dossier.[13] Following Trump's election as president, Steele continued working on the report, with funding from Democrats ceasing and financing finally coming directly from Glenn R. Simpson of Fusion GPS.

...and of course we know that the Clinton campaign and the Obama justice dept used this to try to sway an election that they were fully confident of winning.....

[spence]

Originally Posted by scottw

to be clear...this is not an American or British Intelligence dossier...this is a PRIVATE dossier...written by a former intelligence officer contracted by Clinton and the DNC...of which.."Parts of the dossier have been confirmed, while others have yet to be proved or disproved,[8][9] including, as 2017 drew to a close, the dossier's allegations of collusion.[10][11] The media, intelligence community, as well as most experts have therefore treated the dossier with caution"


from wiki

After Trump emerged as the probable Republican nominee, attorney Marc Elias of the Perkins Coie law firm retained American research firm Fusion GPS to conduct opposition research about Trump on behalf of the Democratic National Committee and Clinton presidential campaign. Fusion GPS later contracted Steele to compile the dossier.[13] Following Trump's election as president, Steele continued working on the report, with funding from Democrats ceasing and financing finally coming directly from Glenn R. Simpson of Fusion GPS.

...and of course we know that the Clinton campaign and the Obama justice dept used this to try to sway an election that they were fully confident of winning.....

You should read the Simpson testimony released this week. It's credible and very damning.
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[PaulS]

Originally Posted by scottw

to be clear...this is not an American or British Intelligence dossier...this is a PRIVATE dossier...written by a former intelligence officer contracted by Clinton and the DNC as part of a dirt digging mission...of which.."Parts of the dossier have been confirmed, while others have yet to be proved or disproved,[8][9] including, as 2017 drew to a close, the dossier's allegations of collusion.[10][11] The media, intelligence community, as well as most experts have therefore treated the dossier with caution"


from wiki

After Trump emerged as the probable Republican nominee, attorney Marc Elias of the Perkins Coie law firm retained American research firm Fusion GPS to conduct opposition research about Trump on behalf of the Democratic National Committee and Clinton presidential campaign. Fusion GPS later contracted Steele to compile the dossier.[13] Following Trump's election as president, Steele continued working on the report, with funding from Democrats ceasing and financing finally coming directly from Glenn R. Simpson of Fusion GPS.

...and of course we know that the Clinton campaign and the Obama justice dept used this to try to sway an election that they were fully confident of winning.....

Most people know it was not created by the US or British intelligence service but rather by the former head of the Russian desk of MI6 (I believe).

[spence]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Most people know it was not created by the US or British intelligence service but rather by the former head of the Russian desk of MI6 (I believe).

I believe a part of it was corroborated by an inside source.

Steele wasn't just a Russian expert, according to the testimony he was hired party leaders because his expertise was spotting russian propaganda.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

I believe a part of it was corroborated by an inside source.

Steele wasn't just a Russian expert, according to the testimony he was hired party leaders because his expertise was spotting russian propaganda.
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indeed

[scottw]

democrats should really just refocus their effort on undermining the Trump economy...that will be their biggest enemy going forward

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by scottw

democrats should really just refocus their effort on undermining the Trump economy...that will be their biggest enemy going forward

Kind of like what the republicans did with Obama ?
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[PaulS]

Originally Posted by scottw

democrats should really just refocus their effort on undermining the Trump economy...that will be their biggest enemy going forward

Yes, what a waste of $s looking into possible collusion w/the Russians or obstruction of justice. That money can be used for another committee to look into Bengazi.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by scottw

democrats should really just refocus their effort on undermining the Trump economy...that will be their biggest enemy going forward

And it's going to be a very formidable enemy. I would love to be the campaign manager of any Republican challenger running against a democrat opponent. All you have to do is run commercials saying that the democrat vote against the voters being able to keep more of their money. It's going to be effective.

There's that old saying that politics "is about the economy, stupid". If it was that simple, the GOP would make huge gains. But Trump is the most obnoxiously offensive POTUS I have seen, so that will have an effect. As will the fact that the liberals and the media never, ever stop bashing him long enough to take a breath. That's also effective.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

I think the biggest problem is that people confuse an intelligence dossier with facts. exactly
An intelligence dossier is the reason you investigate further. The special prosecutor is investigating and we will see what he finds.
My opinion is that Trump has always pushed the legal envelope in business and I don't think he sees politics any differently.
Few of us are not guilty of that in some way.

That is exactly correct. Word is that what was in the doc. confirmed what the FBI had already heard -maybe from their source in the Trump admin. if those reports are true.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Word is that what was in the doc. confirmed what the FBI had already heard -maybe from their source in the Trump admin. if those reports are true.

yeah..."word"

you sound like Spence now