Fox tell Trump to arm Teachers

[zimmy]

Every time one of these massacres happens, I come across articles from ER doctors and the like. Totally changed my view on the AR vs handgun side of the debate.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...n-guns/553937/

[Slipknot]

Originally Posted by zimmy

Every time one of these massacres happens, I come across articles from ER doctors and the like. Totally changed my view on the AR vs handgun side of the debate.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...n-guns/553937/

it should change your view on people

most people don't carry concealed Ar's for protection, nobody that I know of. Have you read doctors reports of what a shotgun blast does to ones organs?

people kill people, the guns don't pull their own triggers and shoot themselves.

Liberty built this country and if you take it away, we will lose this country.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Slipknot

people kill people, the guns don't pull their own triggers and shoot themselves.

Nuclear weapons don't "pull their own triggers and shoot themselves" yet for some reason we don't want NK to have them.

[Slipknot]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Nuclear weapons don't "pull their own triggers and shoot themselves" yet for some reason we don't want NK to have them.

We don't allow Criminals and mental defectives to have guns, so what the heck is your point?

[zimmy]

Originally Posted by Slipknot

We don't allow... mental defectives to have guns, so what the heck is your point?

Now THAT is funny!
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Slipknot

We don't allow Criminals and mental defectives to have guns, so what the heck is your point?

The problem is, based on what happened in FL, we are allowing mental defectives to have guns.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Slipknot

We don't allow Criminals and mental defectives to have guns, so what the heck is your point?

It looked like you were trying to make the point that guns don't kill people - people kill people.

Using that logic nukes don't kill people.

So why is it different between nukes and ARs?

[Slipknot]

Originally Posted by PaulS

It looked like you were trying to make the point that guns don't kill people - people kill people.

Using that logic nukes don't kill people.

So why is it different between nukes and ARs?

so go ahead and build one then if you want one

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Slipknot

so go ahead and build one then if you want one

shows the hypocrisy of the right I guess.

[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by PaulS

It looked like you were trying to make the point that guns don't kill people - people kill people.

Using that logic nukes don't kill people.

So why is it different between nukes and ARs?

Paul, if you get raped would you blame the penis?
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[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

Paul, if you get raped would you blame the penis?
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My penis has a mind of its own
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[spence]

Originally Posted by Slipknot

We don't allow Criminals and mental defectives to have guns, so what the heck is your point?

Felons can still buy guns from unlicensed sellers online or at gun shows. Regarding the mentally ill, we don't do anything to establish mental fitness before a gun purchase like some countries do, so unless the buyer was involuntary committed or has a court order declaring they are unfit...they can certainly buy guns.

[Slipknot]

Originally Posted by spence

Felons can still buy guns from unlicensed sellers online or at gun shows. Regarding the mentally ill, we don't do anything to establish mental fitness before a gun purchase like some countries do, so unless the buyer was involuntary committed or has a court order declaring they are unfit...they can certainly buy guns.

not in my state

[spence]

Originally Posted by Slipknot

not in my state

Maybe that's one of the reasons why Mass has the lowest gun violence of any state in the USA?

[spence]

Originally Posted by Slipknot

most people don't carry concealed Ar's for protection, nobody that I know of. Have you read doctors reports of what a shotgun blast does to ones organs?

Well, perhaps it's just because it's not practical and even in open carry states doesn't seem like it's regarded very favorably by the general public or police. As for shotguns, now you get into range and capacity neither of which favor violent crime.

[zimmy]

Originally Posted by Slipknot

it should change your view on people

most people don't carry concealed Ar's for protection, nobody that I know of. Have you read doctors reports of what a shotgun blast does to ones organs?

people kill people, the guns don't pull their own triggers and shoot themselves.

Liberty built this country and if you take it away, we will lose this country.

Doctors and law enforcement are much more concerned about ARs than shotguns for mass shootings. You know guns, so you would be too if that were your concern. I defer to them over people with a infatuation for a weapon. AR is fun to shoot. Has no effect on my liberty if I can'r have one any more than not having a rocket launcher or tommy gun. A gun isn't liberty.

[zimmy]

Originally Posted by zimmy

On the law making side, he called on Congress to pass laws that would:

Originally Posted by scottw

try to follow along....



you understand the president does not write laws...right? s

You can see the irony of your follow along comment, right?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by zimmy

A gun isn't liberty.

Not for you. Not for me. But for many it is.

[Slipknot]

Originally Posted by zimmy

Doctors and law enforcement are much more concerned about ARs than shotguns for mass shootings. You know guns, so you would be too if that were your concern. I defer to them over people with a infatuation for a weapon. AR is fun to shoot. Has no effect on my liberty if I can'r have one any more than not having a rocket launcher or tommy gun. A gun isn't liberty.

I never said it was not my concern


You and others are never going to understand and it's not my job to inform you, just like it was not my job, but the FBI's job to follow up on the multiple warnings by people about the unstable Cruz. But I am not going to be silent and be thought of as condoning it.

That's cute, a gun isn't liberty. no chit

We are privileged to live in the greatest nation ever and you can thank our founders for framing a constitution that allows us liberties for Capitalism to thrive. Without that you would not have the freedoms you take for granted every single day of your life. Those same liberties can take away liberty, none of us should let that happen.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Slipknot

We are privileged to live in the greatest nation ever and you can thank our founders for framing a constitution that allows us liberties for Capitalism to thrive. Without that you would not have the freedoms you take for granted every single day of your life. Those same liberties can take away liberty, none of us should let that happen.

What is the definition of greatest nation ever, other than we are always told that?
What measurements did you use to define that?
Here are the things I found that we are statistically #1 in:
Gun possession, incarceration, women's olympic figure skating medals, the most super rich, wine consumption, number of plastic surgeons, horse exports, breast augmentation, death by violence, Christians, Jews, small arms imports, small arms exports, non-methane voc emissions, corn oil production, cheese, cinnamon imports, etc.
Here is where i found these rankings and maybe someone can find ones that confirm we are the greatest ever.
https://rankingamerica.wordpress.com/

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

What is the definition of greatest nation ever, other than we are always told that?

what would be your pick for "greatest nation ever"?...and why?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

What is the definition of greatest nation ever, other than we are always told that?
What measurements did you use to define that?
Here are the things I found that we are statistically #1 in:
Gun possession, incarceration, women's olympic figure skating medals, the most super rich, wine consumption, number of plastic surgeons, horse exports, breast augmentation, death by violence, Christians, Jews, small arms imports, small arms exports, non-methane voc emissions, corn oil production, cheese, cinnamon imports, etc.
Here is where i found these rankings and maybe someone can find ones that confirm we are the greatest ever.
https://rankingamerica.wordpress.com/

Oh for Christ's sake. You sound like a sociology professor character in a bad sitcom.

How about the most free, the most generous (by far), providing the most upward economic opportunity, being one of the few to elect an ethnic minority as President.