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02-27-2018, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
People pleading guilty left and right and some how it's still a witch hunt . They only seem to care they can't touch Trump with the collusion lable..
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Interesting read of a pretty credible guy. Collusion or not the damage is being done regardless...
https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...-hayden-217091 |
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02-27-2018, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
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I can hear it now
He is an Independent......
Clearly a deep state operative..........
I think the article puts a different perspective on the situation. He is a critical thinker and shows that this issue is more interesting and convoluted than the politicians or media would have us believe. |
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Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
Lets Go Darwin
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02-27-2018, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by scottw
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A little quote from the article, since selecting portions that are in our favor are en vogue.
"That’s not to say everything Michael Hayden says is inherently wrong. Again, he’s right that President Obama almost certainly did not directly order a “wiretap” of Donald Trump, and he generally has a reasonable positions on Trump’s dangerous Muslim Ban and even encryption." |
Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
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02-27-2018, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
A little quote from the article, since selecting portions that are in our favor are en vogue.
"That’s not to say everything Michael Hayden says is inherently wrong. Again, he’s right that President Obama almost certainly did not directly order a “wiretap” of Donald Trump, and he generally has a reasonable positions on Trump’s dangerous Muslim Ban and even encryption."
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I read that....I didn't select portions...I linked the entire article
it's really funny...during the Bush years...regarding wiretapping...it was portrayed by the left as Bush and Cheney sitting around a monitor all day listening to the phone conversations of average Americans...Google..."Bush Wiretapping"....Trump does essentially the same thing and he's crazy...so I'll admit both Trump and the left are crazy |
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02-27-2018, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by scottw
I read that....I didn't select portions...I linked the entire article
it's really funny...during the Bush years...regarding wiretapping...it was portrayed by the left as Bush and Cheney sitting around a monitor all day listening to the phone conversations of average Americans...Google..."Bush Wiretapping"....Trump does essentially the same thing and he's crazy...so I'll admit both Trump and the left are crazy
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Speaking of crazy... the complaint with the Bush era wiretapping was that it was warrantless. Trump is making up something about Obama that never happened. The faulty analogies in this forum? Crazy. |
No, no, no. we’re 30… 30, three zero.
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02-27-2018, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by zimmy
Speaking of crazy... the complaint with the Bush era wiretapping was that it was warrantless. Trump is making up something about Obama that never happened. The faulty analogies in this forum? Crazy.
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there was apparently a lot of wiretapping going on...Trump was just being Trump....you know...like "Biden being Biden" |
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02-27-2018, 01:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by scottw
it's really funny...during the Bush years...regarding wiretapping...it was portrayed by the left as Bush and Cheney sitting around a monitor all day listening to the phone conversations of average Americans...Google..."Bush Wiretapping"....Trump does essentially the same thing and he's crazy...so I'll admit both Trump and the left are crazy
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You must have a short memory, Bush authorized warrantless wiretapping after 911.
Big, huge, monstrous difference. |
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02-27-2018, 02:30 PM
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yes...very big difference...
the Bush folks were trying to prevent terrorism after 911
members of the Obama admin in collusion with the Hillary campaign were trying to ensure Trump was never elected and.... how was is put?...."have an insurance policy if somehow he was?".....
very troubling...
if Hillary had just gotten elected none of this would be a problem..plan B is a lot of work.......damn Russians
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