Trump Calls For Military Forces On U.S.-Mexico Border

[wdmso]

And this all stems from Fox and friends

Even if border crossing are down


In the five months ending in February, apprehensions of unaccompanied minors were down 36 percent from the same period a year earlier, while apprehensions of families were down 46 percent.

does he understand you can not deploy the Military.. the national guard may be used

Active-duty personnel face strict limits on their ability to operate on U.S. soil. An 1878 law bans federal troops from enforcing domestic laws


Fox and friends spoke about a “caravan”referring to the group as an “army of migrants marching to America” and a “small migrant army marching toward the United States.”

[PaulS]

Lou Dobbs told him to do it.
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[JohnR]

Yet troops have been at the borders many times in the past hundred years.

BTW - I do think it is poor use of resources to have federal troops there other than a technical / support role but it has been done.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by JohnR

Yet troops have been at the borders many times in the past hundred years.

BTW - I do think it is poor use of resources to have federal troops there other than a technical / support role but it has been done.

It has been done .... no one is disputing that National guard troops have been deployed

buts thats really not what Tump is talking about or why he is suggesting such a move ..

he was told his Base thinks he is weak on immigration ... So this is his answer .. more abuse of power his actions are for himself not for the country

[scottw]

Originally Posted by wdmso

buts thats really not what Tump is talking about or why he is suggesting such a move ..

....he just wants to have a parade to celebrate the construction of the wall

[Nebe]

It would be nice if trump just shut the #^&#^&#^&#^& up for once.
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[Raven]

immigrants in huge numbers is an invasion of sorts

time will tell if it becomes violent

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Raven

immigrants in huge numbers is an invasion of sorts

time will tell if it becomes violent

1000 men women and children no guns or ammo are considered a huge invasion ?


TRUMPS acting like that commercial with the women whos cutting up her couch with a chain saw.because she thinks she won the lottery And her husbands saying YOU MAY BE A WINNER!!!

[scottw]

Originally Posted by wdmso

1000 men women and children no guns or ammo are considered a huge invasion ?

he didn't say "huge invasion" ...he said "huge numbers"

and sorry to do this but technically..YES

in·va·sion
inˈvāZHən/Submit
noun

an incursion by a large number of people or things into a place or sphere of activity.

"stadium guards are preparing for another invasion of fans"

synonyms: influx, inundation, flood, rush, torrent, deluge, avalanche, juggernaut

"an invasion of tourists"

an unwelcome intrusion into another's domain.

[zimmy]

I wish Trump was around when the Irish invaded at Ellis Island. Things would be a lot different.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by zimmy

I wish Trump was around when the Irish invaded at Ellis Island. Things would be a lot different.

were they marching across the border at Ellis Island giving the middle finger to our legal immigration process?

[zimmy]

Originally Posted by scottw

were they marching across the border at Ellis Island giving the middle finger to our legal immigration process?

Unfortunately, all immigration was legal given what those poaching buggers have done to our striper populations.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by zimmy

Unfortunately, all immigration was legal given what those poaching buggers have done to our striper populations.

no idea what you are talking about

[zimmy]

Originally Posted by scottw

were they marching across the border at Ellis Island giving the middle finger to our legal immigration process?

no idea what you are talking about

Unfortunately, given what those poaching buggers have done to our striper populations, all immigration was legal.
That help?

[spence]

Originally Posted by scottw

were they marching across the border at Ellis Island giving the middle finger to our legal immigration process?

They're fleeing violence and political repression in their home country. Doesn't that give them a right to petition for asylum under our legal immigration process?

The military action is just a PR stunt.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by spence

Doesn't that give them a right to petition for asylum under our legal immigration process?

Didn't President Trump claim that they were going to apply under DACA?

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

They're fleeing violence and political repression in their home country. Doesn't that give them a right to petition for asylum under our legal immigration process?

The military action is just a PR stunt.

seems like an odd way to ask for asylum, though I think they have to petition for refugee status first?..demanding open borders and citizenship of the world?

[spence]

Originally Posted by scottw

seems like an odd way to ask for asylum, though I think they have to petition for refugee status first?..demanding open borders and citizenship of the world?

The list of demands doesn't seem that crazy does it? I'm thinking of demanding the same thing from the Trump administration.

[Nebe]

I was told I was going to be tired of all this winning. Can someone let me know when that’s going to happen ?
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Nebe

I was told I was going to be tired of all this winning. Can someone let me know when that’s going to happen ?
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Are you sure it wasn't Whining, I know I'm tired of that

[Pete F.]

A little history and I can find ones that are much more partisan, each way.
https://www.history.com/news/the-bir...al-immigration

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

A little history and I can find ones that are much more partisan, each way.
https://www.history.com/news/the-bir...al-immigration

do you have a point?

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by scottw

do you have a point?

Sure
If they were Northern Europeans all would be fine, the US has given preferential treatment to White Protestants for 150 years.
Preferably Norwegians.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Sure
If they were Northern Europeans all would be fine,

clearly

[PaulS]

Maybe this is like excercise Jade Helm when people thought the military was going to overtake Texas? Good thing people have ARs.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Maybe this is like excercise Jade Helm when people thought the military was going to overtake Texas? Good thing people have ARs.

no idea what you are talking about

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by scottw

no idea what you are talking about

Just something else Obama did, similar to being born in Africa.
In case you have no idea, that was sarcasm.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Just something else Obama did, similar to being born in Africa.
In case you have no idea, that was sarcasm.

......

[wdmso]

Trump “will be signing a proclamation to that effect today.”

Nielsen added that plans were still “being finalized” but that officials were “working with all haste” to implement the measure. “We do hope that the deployment begins immediately,” they are clueless on how this works they watch to much TV


Syria war: Trump 'persuaded not to pull out immediately'

not sure if he understands military cannot act as a police force and make arrests or use force.

and what happened to not telling other countries what we were going to do before doing it?

[detbuch]

What the left used to say about illegal immigration:http://humanevents.com/2018/04/04/we...tm_campaign=nl

One doesn’t have to go back to the Garfield administration to find a time when everyone wanted to protect the nation from dysfunctional immigration — the crime, the drugs, the poverty, the wage-depressing effect, the burden on our social services. Positions that are today considered hateful used to be called “common sense.”

A 1995 news article in The New York Times calmly described preparations the Immigration and Naturalization Service was making in case a “vast flood of illegal immigrants” surged across the Mexican border, “inundating entire communities as it washes north into the American heartland.” Under the Clinton administration, the illegals would face either “immediate voluntary deportation” or “emergency detention.”

No indignant denunciations followed.

More hate speech from the Times:
“Fighting illegal immigration is a difficult and important job. But Congress should do it in a way that will deter illegal entry at the border.” — New York Times editorial, Sept. 29, 1997

“(The I.N.S.) is extremely troubled, but has improved under the leadership of Doris Meissner. Since her appointment in 1993, … (t)he border is tighter, and the I.N.S. is deporting record numbers of criminal aliens.” — New York Times editorial, Aug. 10, 1997

Just a few years ago, Charles Lane, an editorial writer at The Washington Post, called for “prompt exclusion of unaccompanied Central American minors” during the border surge under Obama. “Only by showing people there is nothing to be gained by paying traffickers for the traumatic voyage through Mexico will the chaos cease.”

The great civil rights icon Barbara Jordan produced a report on immigration more than two decades ago, calling on the government to end chain migration and put a dead stop to illegal immigration, for the benefit of all Americans.
“Credibility in immigration policy can be summed up in one sentence: Those who should get in, get in; those who should be kept out, are kept out; and those who should not be here will be required to leave.”
She added: “Deportation is crucial.”

Far-left Democrats used to openly proclaim ideas that would get them banned from Twitter today:
“When push comes to shove, there is only one realistic way that you can stop illegal immigration into this country, and that is by making it illegal and being tough enough that illegal immigrants cannot work in this country.” — Democratic Sen. Howard Metzenbaum, 1985

“No sane country would (reward illegal immigrants), right? Guess again. If you break our laws by entering this country without permission, and give birth to a child, we reward that child with U.S. citizenship and guarantee full access to all public and social services this society provides — and that’s a lot of services. Is it any wonder that two-thirds of the babies born at taxpayer expense in county-run hospitals in Los Angeles are born to illegal alien mothers?” — Democratic Sen. Harry Reid, 1993

Very recently, a presidential candidate who seemed to actually care about America’s working class denounced illegal immigration as “a Koch brothers” idea. That was Bernie Sanders.
He explained: “Open borders? No, that’s a Koch brothers’ proposal. … That’s a right-wing proposal, which says essentially there is no United States. … It would make everybody in America poorer — you’re doing away with the concept of a nation-state. … You have an obligation in my view to do everything we can to help poor people.
“What right-wing people in this country would love is an open-border policy. Bring in all kinds of people, work for $2 or $3 an hour — that would be great for them. I don’t believe in that. I think we have to raise wages in this country; I think we have to do everything we can to create millions of jobs.” — Bernie Sanders in interview with Ezra Klein of Vox on July 28, 2015