Pelosi defends MS-13 from Trump

[Pete F.]

Here is a little context for you, why Trump is claiming that only he can save you from those evil (fill in the blank) and why he is painting his opposition as anti whatever

Trump defended his hardline immigration rhetoric, central to his 2016 campaign, as an asset for the midterms.

"And you can say what you want, but I think border security and security in general is a great issue for the Republican Party," Trump said. "I think it's a great issue, not a bad issue."

The White House has repeatedly highlighted victims of gang violence as evidence that the U.S. needs more stringent immigration laws, including rolling back some forms of legal immigration. Critics, however, say the administration is simply exploiting such tragedies for political gain and to disparage Hispanic immigrants.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Here is a little context for you, why Trump is claiming that only he can save you from those evil (fill in the blank) and why he is painting his opposition as anti whatever

Trump defended his hardline immigration rhetoric, central to his 2016 campaign, as an asset for the midterms.

"And you can say what you want, but I think border security and security in general is a great issue for the Republican Party," Trump said. "I think it's a great issue, not a bad issue."

The White House has repeatedly highlighted victims of gang violence as evidence that the U.S. needs more stringent immigration laws, including rolling back some forms of legal immigration. Critics, however, say the administration is simply exploiting such tragedies for political gain and to disparage Hispanic immigrants.

this is context that you cut and pasted from NPR...good grief...that's hardly an unbiased source for context ....Spence would label that VERY questionable if the other ox was being gored

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Here is a little context for you, why Trump is claiming that only he can save you from those evil (fill in the blank) and why he is painting his opposition as anti whatever

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No that's funny. Today's democratic party is founded on the notion that anyone who disagrees with you about anything, is a hatemonger of some sort, Recall Hilary's 'deplorables' comment?

I agree that Trump plays this card all the time, but it's the backbone of current liberalism.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

No that's funny. Today's democratic party is founded on the notion that anyone who disagrees with you about anything, is a hatemonger of some sort, Recall Hilary's 'deplorables' comment?

I agree that Trump plays this card all the time, but it's the backbone of current liberalism.

A form of political practice distinctive to the 20th century that arouses popular enthusiasm by sophisticated propaganda techniques for an anti-liberal, anti-socialist, violently exclusionary, expansionist nationalist agenda.
Sound like anyone you know and love?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

A form of political practice distinctive to the 20th century that arouses popular enthusiasm by sophisticated propaganda techniques for an anti-liberal, anti-socialist, violently exclusionary, expansionist nationalist agenda.
Sound like anyone you know and love?

Sure, that sounds like Trump. He's one guy.

Many elected democrats refer to the pro-life crowd as anti-woman. They refer to those who want to enforce immigration laws, as xenophobes. They refer to Christians as homophobes. They refer to those who are concerned with jihadists as Islamophobes.

This kind of demonization of the other side, is far more common on the left, it's a huge reason Trump got elected, the right wanted someone who would hit back.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Sure, that sounds like Trump. He's one guy.

Many elected democrats refer to the pro-life crowd as anti-woman. They refer to those who want to enforce immigration laws, as xenophobes. They refer to Christians as homophobes. They refer to those who are concerned with jihadists as Islamophobes.

This kind of demonization of the other side, is far more common on the left, it's a huge reason Trump got elected, the right wanted someone who would hit back.

Since you have agreed that Trump fits Paxton's description of a Fascist leader, where are we now in Paxton's five stage of Fascism?
Here are the five stages of Fascism
1. Intellectual exploration, where disillusionment with popular democracy manifests itself in discussions of lost national vigor
2. Rooting, where a fascist movement, aided by political deadlock and polarization, becomes a player on the national stage
3. Arrival to power, where conservatives seeking to control rising leftist opposition invite the movement to share power
4. Exercise of power, where the movement and its charismatic leader control the state in balance with state institutions such as the police and traditional elites such as the clergy and business magnates.
5. Radicalization or entropy, where the state either becomes increasingly radical, or slips into traditional authoritarian rule.