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07-20-2018, 08:53 AM
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it's brilliant strategy that you are not smart enough to understand...don't worry...he's got this...
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It is not brilliant strategy - it makes no sense. Why is Trump so malleable around VVP?
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China however is moving itself forward better then anyone probably gives them credit for.
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No, China is not moving itself forward and better. It is going to crush millions it its rise
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Putin and Trump are so similar in their need to be seen in a certain light, the summit was like watching a mutual admiration society meeting.
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No, not similar at all. Putin is leagues ahead of Trump, Obama, Clinton, Bush (at least junior) but more like a combination Bond villain - the image he tries to cultivate, and a smarter Tony Soprano that also owns his FBI |
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07-20-2018, 09:01 AM
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It is not brilliant strategy - it makes no sense. Why is Trump so malleable around VVP?
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that was sarcastic....Spence was always quick to defend Obama's questionable moves, particularly in regard to Russia and Syria as "playing brilliantly" or something...as though no one else was smart enough to understand the hidden brilliance of his decisions
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07-20-2018, 09:01 AM
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So it had nothing to do with her trying to set up meetings w/Trump and Putin and funnel money to the NRA in support of Trump? or her being seen with many infuential Repub. politicians
Interesting that the house intell. committee refused Dem. requests to interview Butina and Erickson (as an overweight old Repub. he should have know an attractive Russian was just using him).
Goes far beyond "not registering as a foreign agent"
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07-20-2018, 09:06 AM
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So it had nothing to do with her trying to set up meetings w/Trump and Putin and funnel money to the NRA in support of Trump? or her being seen with many infuential Repub. politicians
Interesting that the house intell. committee refused Dem. requests to interview Butina and Erickson (as an overweight old Repub. he should have know an attractive Russian was just using him).
Goes far beyond "not registering as a foreign agent"
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was she charged with using overweight old republicans? |
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07-20-2018, 09:17 AM
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Goes far beyond "not registering as a foreign agent"
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Paul...I'm reading what she's charged with and accused of and while I think she should answer for whatever she's done...I don't see some big national security threat...Spence would say "she has an impressive resume"(sarcasm)...it does however, give the media and the left the opportunity to scream "RUSSIAN SPY"
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07-20-2018, 09:24 AM
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That article also says:
Also in the photo: Alexander Torshin, who is not named in court filings but is the "Russian official" who gave Butina orders as part of the conspiracy, according to The New York Times
Also - "prosecutors who argued that Butina represented an “extreme” risk of flight from the country."
They can add charges at any time so wanted to keep her here bf she left the country.
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07-20-2018, 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
That article also says:
Also in the photo: Alexander Torshin, who is not named in court filings but is the "Russian official" who gave Butina orders as part of the conspiracy, according to The New York Times
Also - "prosecutors who argued that Butina represented an “extreme” risk of flight from the country." so I was right "probably so she doesn't leave the country"
They can add charges at any time so wanted to keep her here bf she left the country.
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07-20-2018, 09:56 AM
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the point is that the gov. has other concerns besides "she's accused of not registering as a foreign agent" as you said. That may be the tip of the iceburg.
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07-20-2018, 10:40 AM
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the point is that the gov. has other concerns besides "she's accused of not registering as a foreign agent" as you said. That may be the tip of the iceburg.
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"may be"
sounds more like a mail order bride gone wrong
great headline.. Accused Russian spy allegedly offered sex for power
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07-20-2018, 01:22 PM
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the point is that the gov. has other concerns besides "she's accused of not registering as a foreign agent" as you said. That may be the tip of the iceburg.
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They outed her with a lesser charge so the NSA can intercept the frenzy of communication that will follow.
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07-20-2018, 01:42 PM
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They outed her with a lesser charge so the NSA can intercept the frenzy of communication that will follow.
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"outed" her???...she testified before the Senate Intelligence Committee in closed session several months ago....she was subject of an FBI raid in April.......I think the last straw was when she posed with the cowboy hat and hand gun 
her lawyer...
"We've been trying to work something out, unsuccessfully, with the government, who seems intent on pressing forward with incarceration, notwithstanding, you know, a pretty weak case," Driscoll said Monday.
again...if she did something she was not supposed to be doing...bring the hammer...but good grief....get a grip |
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07-20-2018, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by scottw
that was sarcastic....Spence was always quick to defend Obama's questionable moves, particularly in regard to Russia and Syria as "playing brilliantly" or something...as though no one else was smart enough to understand the hidden brilliance of his decisions
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Originally Posted by scottw
"outed" her???...she testified before the Senate Intelligence Committee in closed session several months ago....she was subject of an FBI raid in April.......I think the last straw was when she posed with the cowboy hat and hand gun
her lawyer...
"We've been trying to work something out, unsuccessfully, with the government, who seems intent on pressing forward with incarceration, notwithstanding, you know, a pretty weak case," Driscoll said Monday.
again...if she did something she was not supposed to be doing...bring the hammer...but good grief....get a grip |
It is an interesting story - wonder where it leads.
One thing is for ABSOLUTE CERTAIN!!! Obama's Russian Spies were much hotter than Trumps |
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07-21-2018, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by scottw
"outed" her???...she testified before the Senate Intelligence Committee in closed session several months ago....she was subject of an FBI raid in April.......I think the last straw was when she posed with the cowboy hat and hand gun
her lawyer...
"We've been trying to work something out, unsuccessfully, with the government, who seems intent on pressing forward with incarceration, notwithstanding, you know, a pretty weak case," Driscoll said Monday.
again...if she did something she was not supposed to be doing...bring the hammer...but good grief....get a grip |
And yet the US Government basically just charged her with espionage.
You’re becoming quite the Russia appologist these days. What does Putin have on you?
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07-21-2018, 06:53 PM
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You’re becoming quite the Russia appologist these days. What does Putin have on you?
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Pee Pee tapes.
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07-22-2018, 05:38 AM
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You’re becoming quite the Russia appologist these days.
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yes, I am definitely a russian apologist.....with two p's...I see what you and Eben did there...practically collusion 
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07-20-2018, 12:33 PM
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ok
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07-20-2018, 01:23 PM
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07-22-2018, 09:52 AM
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5th ave. Repubs.
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