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09-11-2018, 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
OK Spence, tell me why this is a nothingburger. Looks to me, like senior FBI agents, who happened to hate Trump, hatched a plan to leak information in a manner that had nothing whatsoever to do with the investigation, but rather in a way designed to hurt Trump, which they obviously wanted to do.
If I therefore say that our FBI was interfering in the 2016 election, how would that be wrong?
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018...eing-done.html
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They weren't very successful at it, were they?
Or is this just a lead into: everybody is picking on Trump and it is all part of a deepstate plot by the Democrats, FBI and DOJ to overthrow his very successful Greatest of all time presidency
Perhaps you think Mark Felt was wrong also?
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09-11-2018, 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
They weren't very successful at it, were they?
Or is this just a lead into: everybody is picking on Trump and it is all part of a deepstate plot by the Democrats, FBI and DOJ to overthrow his very successful Greatest of all time presidency
Perhaps you think Mark Felt was wrong also?
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"They weren't very successful at it, were they?"
Unbelievable. So would you not arrest people for attempted murder, if their victims survive? The issue is their intent. You really can't see anything other than your hatred of Trump, can you? Nothing else exists.
"Or is this just a lead into: everybody is picking on Trump "
No, it's nothing like that. Can we stick to this issue for a moment?
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09-11-2018, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
"They weren't very successful at it, were they?"
Unbelievable. So would you not arrest people for attempted murder, if their victims survive? The issue is their intent. You really can't see anything other than your hatred of Trump, can you? Nothing else exists.
"Or is this just a lead into: everybody is picking on Trump "
No, it's nothing like that. Can we stick to this issue for a moment?
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If Trump is indeed a con artist, and if he is, in the end, elected, we may end up not wanting to admit that we were scammed. At the moment, Trump’s supporters see him as authentic and honest, even as they dismiss more traditional candidates, like Hillary Clinton, as quintessential politicians—that is, as opportunistic liars. Perhaps, in the future, we’ll cling to this belief to preserve our collective self-image. In that case, the term “con artist” may end up applying to us, too.
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Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
Lets Go Darwin
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09-11-2018, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
If Trump is indeed a con artist, and if he is, in the end, elected, we may end up not wanting to admit that we were scammed. At the moment, Trump’s supporters see him as authentic and honest, even as they dismiss more traditional candidates, like Hillary Clinton, as quintessential politicians—that is, as opportunistic liars. Perhaps, in the future, we’ll cling to this belief to preserve our collective self-image. In that case, the term “con artist” may end up applying to us, too.
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that's some bizarre stuff 
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09-11-2018, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
If Trump is indeed a con artist, and if he is, in the end, elected, we may end up not wanting to admit that we were scammed. At the moment, Trump’s supporters see him as authentic and honest, even as they dismiss more traditional candidates, like Hillary Clinton, as quintessential politicians—that is, as opportunistic liars. Perhaps, in the future, we’ll cling to this belief to preserve our collective self-image. In that case, the term “con artist” may end up applying to us, too.
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for one nanosecond, forget you hate trump. does it bother you, that the fbi tried to tilt the election, or dontiy just not care because they tried to help your candidate?
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09-11-2018, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
for one nanosecond, forget you hate trump. does it bother you, that the fbi tried to tilt the election, or dontiy just not care because they tried to help your candidate?
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
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Don't hate Trump, I see him for what he is, a con man.
The FBI can be investigated, no deep state plot has been shown, and you'll find a few rogue agents, just like any organization
Not my candidate
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Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
Lets Go Darwin
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09-11-2018, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
"They weren't very successful at it, were they?"
Unbelievable. So would you not arrest people for attempted murder, if their victims survive? The issue is their intent. You really can't see anything other than your hatred of Trump, can you? Nothing else exists.
"Or is this just a lead into: everybody is picking on Trump "
No, it's nothing like that. Can we stick to this issue for a moment?
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You do realize that Pete F. is the one holding the "Laser Pointer" right now
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"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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09-11-2018, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
You do realize that Pete F. is the one holding the "Laser Pointer" right now
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I hear you! But I think I'm responding somewhat rationally. But that was funny right there.
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