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10-23-2018, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
We could not conform with international law and treaties and domestic law. There is likely nothing the rest of the world could or would do.
But if we want to live in a world where our word and the rule of law is important, not following laws and negotiated agreements is not a good precendent.
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"That said, a person cannot claim asylum unless they are on US soil."
that's the key, they have to be here to claim it. It's not a violation to not grant it if they aren't here. |
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10-23-2018, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
"That said, a person cannot claim asylum unless they are on US soil."
that's the key, they have to be here to claim it. It's not a violation to not grant it if they aren't here.
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So if Mexico ignores treaties and laws it doesn’t count?
Or are you suggesting that like Don the Con’s good friend in North Korea, Central American countries should prevent their citizens from leaving?
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10-23-2018, 10:15 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete F.
So if Mexico ignores treaties and laws it doesn’t count?
Or are you suggesting that like Don the Con’s good friend in North Korea, Central American countries should prevent their citizens from leaving?
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Well, There's some serious word twisting there. 
They can leave any country they want. I'm suggesting that the US not allowing them in isn't violating any International Law. No More, No Less |
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10-23-2018, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
Well, There's some serious word twisting there.
They can leave any country they want. I'm suggesting that the US not allowing them in isn't violating any International Law. No More, No Less |
International law set by several treaties we signed and ratified says that if a person on your soil applies for refugee status, you have to deal with it (it's more complicated than that, of course) not that you have to grant it.
So is what you are suggesting, much like the boatloads of refugees crossing the Mediteranian to Europe, perhaps swimming the Rio Grande or boatloads in the Caribean to other parts of the US would be preferable to walking up to the border? |
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10-23-2018, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
International law set by ....
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so you want to let them all in Pete? |
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10-23-2018, 11:14 AM
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They are either the smartest or the dumbest bulbs in the pack.
Choosing to make the trek as the weather gets colder?
Either play to public sympathy or take on public ridicule.....
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10-23-2018, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by scottw
so you want to let them all in Pete?
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Refugees need to be dealt with Per our laws and treaties that are in place or change the Constitution and laws
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10-23-2018, 12:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete F.
Refugees need to be dealt with Per our laws and treaties that are in place or change the Constitution and laws
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that's not an answer |
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10-23-2018, 11:21 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete F.
So is what you are suggesting, much like the boatloads of refugees crossing the Mediteranian to Europe, perhaps swimming the Rio Grande or boatloads in the Caribean to other parts of the US would be preferable to walking up to the border?
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I'm suggesting what was in the link you posted, thats where I got that quote.
"That said, a person cannot claim asylum unless they are on US soil."
Again, I'm suggesting that the US not allowing them in isn't violating any International Law. No More, No Less |
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