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12-18-2018, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles
To compare the two is laughable. But nice try in your effort to once again change the narrative of the discussion to one you feign outrage over. Your head must be spinning as usual. We didn’t just bring him back as you know. I also don’t remember saying or even implying that we leave him. Where do you come up with this? Get back to our discussion and stop looking for bushes to hide in.
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And I never compared him to the fallen .. you clearly. Have “ to compare the two is laughable “ so let’s get back discussions You brought the Korean remains into the conversation and bergdahl not I
So as I said it it the duty of any sitting potus to do whatever he can do to bring home any Americans home regardless if they died In combat or not .. it’s not debatable
All service members their families and the nation must have no doubts and have confidence that USA will do what’s required to bring every one home..
once home if actions of individuals were unlawful in the eyes of the UCMJ that’s when it gets resolved.
The perception of UCMJ violations should not delay attempts at repatriation ..
Clearly you feel it was wrong of Obama to make the deal for berghdal
But no issues with Trump dealing with Kim to have those remains returned
You made the comparison sacrifice good deal / deserter bad deal
It’s very clear
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12-18-2018, 10:57 AM
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And I never compared him to the fallen .. you clearly. Have “ to compare the two is laughable “ so let’s get back discussions You brought the Korean remains into the conversation and bergdahl not I
So as I said it it the duty of any sitting potus to do whatever he can do to bring home any Americans home regardless if they died In combat or not .. it’s not debatable
All service members their families and the nation must have no doubts and have confidence that USA will do what’s required to bring every one home..
once home if actions of individuals were unlawful in the eyes of the UCMJ that’s when it gets resolved.
The perception of UCMJ violations should not delay attempts at repatriation ..
Clearly you feel it was wrong of Obama to make the deal for berghdal
But no issues with Trump dealing with Kim to have those remains returned
You made the comparison sacrifice good deal / deserter bad deal
It’s very clear
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This is a discussion where you said you were waiting for a positive action from Trump. I provided the example of bringing home our fallen servicemen ,which took many years as well as many administrations to accomplish. You trivialized it.....wonder why
Wrong party is my guess.
You proceeded by smearing the accomplishment by bringing NK into the discussion despite insisting it is our duty to bring home all of our men regardless. A dizzying display of partisanship. Yes we are obligated to bring them all back. Yes it was a bad deal to bring back this deserter,we lost 6 good men bringing back a soldier who turned his back on his comrades,such a shame. Compound this by trading a handful of bad guys in order to secure the release and it is a terrible deal.
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PRO CHOICE REPUBLICAN
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12-18-2018, 12:34 PM
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This is a discussion where you said you were waiting for a positive action from Trump. I provided the example of bringing home our fallen servicemen ,which took many years as well as many administrations to accomplish. You trivialized it.....wonder why
No I said it was not special it’s expected was it positive yes
Not sure why the rights need to wave Pom poms when Trump does
Positive when it should have been done regardless
Wrong party is my guess.
You proceeded by smearing the accomplishment by bringing NK into the discussion despite insisting it is our duty to bring home all of our men regardless.
You don’t follow we’ll you brought up dealing with terroist .. but no issue dealing with Kim Wrong party right
A dizzying display of partisanship. Yes we are obligated to bring them all back. Yes it was a bad deal to bring back this deserter,we lost 6 good men bringing back a soldier who turned his back on his comrades,such a shame. Compound this by trading a handful of bad guys in order to secure the release and it is a terrible deal.
So you do want to pick and choose who comes home and uninformed to boot
https://www.stripes.com/news/command...gdahl-1.402016
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12-18-2018, 12:54 PM
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If you read enough about it you will find varying accounts regarding the loss of troops looking for the deserter.
Congratulations 🎉, you said something nice about our President.
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12-18-2018, 04:02 PM
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If you read enough about it you will find varying accounts regarding the loss of troops looking for the deserter.
Congratulations , you said something nice about our President.
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you are correct if you read enough theses varying accounts they are what we call alternative facts ..
I will stick with what the Command sergeant major said in the Stars and stripes article
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12-18-2018, 07:37 PM
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you are correct if you read enough theses varying accounts they are what we call alternative facts ..
I will stick with what the Command sergeant major said in the Stars and stripes article
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Ha, glad you know what fake news is. I will stick with what retired GENERAL Michael Flynn said... as well as soldiers involved in the effort to find him. Not to
Mention officers who told cnn that we suffered 8 additional casualties at combat outpost Keating due to resources dedicated to finding your hero.
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12-18-2018, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles
Ha, glad you know what fake news is. I will stick with what retired GENERAL Michael Flynn said... as well as soldiers involved in the effort to find him. Not to
Mention officers who told cnn that we suffered 8 additional casualties at combat outpost Keating due to resources dedicated to finding your hero.
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So to defend your case you’re citing a man convicted of multiple felonies who just got absolutely torched by a federal judge today in court even going to far as to question his patriotism and if he was a traitor.
You don’t need to respond, it all makes sense now.
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12-19-2018, 05:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles
Ha, glad you know what fake news is. I will stick with what retired GENERAL Michael Flynn said... as well as soldiers involved in the effort to find him. Not to
Mention officers who told cnn that we suffered 8 additional casualties at combat outpost Keating due to resources dedicated to finding your hero.
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So you can't accept the Truth ...
Soldiers die in combat for all kinds of reasons that's just the risk in combat we take when ever we go on patrol... I find it odd armchair generals now put a good death bad death scale into play..
FYI
One-Third Of US Casualties In Afghanistan And Iraq Were Non-Combat Accidents
An analysis of Department of Defense Trauma Registry data published in the medical journal JAMA Surgery found that 34.1% of total casualties and 11.5% percent of all deaths from January 2003 to December 2014 occurred in non-combat conditions.
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Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel said in a congressional hearing, “I have seen no evidence that directly links any American combat death to the rescue or finding or search of Sergeant Bergdahl.”
as we say #^&#^&#^&#^& happens
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12-18-2018, 10:58 AM
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And I never compared him to the fallen .. you clearly. Have “ to compare the two is laughable “ so let’s get back discussions You brought the Korean remains into the conversation and bergdahl not I
So as I said it it the duty of any sitting potus to do whatever he can do to bring home any Americans home regardless if they died In combat or not .. it’s not debatable
All service members their families and the nation must have no doubts and have confidence that USA will do what’s required to bring every one home..
once home if actions of individuals were unlawful in the eyes of the UCMJ that’s when it gets resolved.
The perception of UCMJ violations should not delay attempts at repatriation ..
Clearly you feel it was wrong of Obama to make the deal for berghdal
But no issues with Trump dealing with Kim to have those remains returned
You made the comparison sacrifice good deal / deserter bad deal
It’s very clear
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I really want to stay out of your pissing match, but I didn't realize we sacrificed something to have the remains returned.
And, personally, I would rather we go get our captured soldier, using whatever force, "whatever he can do to bring home" as you put it, than to trade for some who have murdered us and let them be free to do so again.
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12-18-2018, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
I really want to stay out of your pissing match, but I didn't realize we sacrificed something to have the remains returned.
And, personally, I would rather we go get our captured soldier, using whatever force, "whatever he can do to bring home" as you put it, than to trade for some who have murdered us and let them be free to do so again.
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Who said we sacrificed anything with North Korea I think they gave the ultimate sacrifice was how it was used
We traded our combatant for their combatants. That’s what happen in combat .. the goal is to kill the enemy
You call them murders what do you think we are to them?
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