| |
 |
|
|
|
 |
|
 |
| |
| Political Threads This section is for Political Threads - Enter at your own risk. If you say you don't want to see what someone posts - don't read it :hihi: |
07-04-2019, 07:41 AM
|
#1
|
|
Canceled
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: vt
Posts: 13,439
|
How come since all citizens have Social Security numbers we need to ask this question on the census
If the goal was to have an accurate count of the number of people in the USA just do a plain unadorned census
Would it not be simple math to come up with the number of illegal immigrants
Total census count-social security card holders = undocumented residents
What’s the goal of putting a question on the census?
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
|
|
|
|
|
|
07-04-2019, 09:17 AM
|
#2
|
|
Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 7,725
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete F.
How come since all citizens have Social Security numbers we need to ask this question on the census
If the goal was to have an accurate count of the number of people in the USA just do a plain unadorned census
Would it not be simple math to come up with the number of illegal immigrants
Total census count-social security card holders = undocumented residents
What’s the goal of putting a question on the census?
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
|
Since the census is used to allocate House seats, why should non-citizens be used to determine the number of seats? Why should that number be influenced by the number of aliens in a state? |
|
|
|
|
|
|
07-04-2019, 10:06 AM
|
#3
|
|
Canceled
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: vt
Posts: 13,439
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by detbuch
Since the census is used to allocate House seats, why should non-citizens be used to determine the number of seats? Why should that number be influenced by the number of aliens in a state?
|
Here’s why, or do you think the courts should legislate from the bench because it suits you in this case?
Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
Lets Go Darwin
|
|
|
|
|
07-04-2019, 10:13 AM
|
#4
|
|
Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Somerset MA
Posts: 9,407
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by detbuch
Since the census is used to allocate House seats, why should non-citizens be used to determine the number of seats? Why should that number be influenced by the number of aliens in a state?
|
because Article I, Section 2 of the United States Constitution, which states: “Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States... according to their respective Numbers... . The actual Enumeration shall be made within three Years after the first meeting of the Congress of the United States, and within every subsequent Term of ten Years”.[a][1] Section 2 of the 14th Amendment states: “Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State...
you cant say your an originalist then add your own inteterpation on sections you disagree the world citizen or aliens doesn't appear |
|
|
|
|
|
|
07-04-2019, 10:24 AM
|
#5
|
|
Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 12,632
|
more stupidity...on the 4th of July no less...
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
07-04-2019, 03:43 PM
|
#6
|
|
Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Somerset MA
Posts: 9,407
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by scottw
more stupidity...on the 4th of July no less...
|
So for the last 241 years we've been doing the census all wrong ...but Trumps going to fix it... i see the stupity all right
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
|
|
|
|
|
|
07-04-2019, 03:57 PM
|
#7
|
|
Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 7,725
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by wdmso
So for the last 241 years we've been doing the census all wrong ...but Trumps going to fix it... i see the stupity all right
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
|
See my answer to you just before this post. Changes were made since 1778. And you didn't quote the rest of Amendment 14 section two. Which originalism would require for interpretation. |
|
|
|
|
|
|
07-04-2019, 04:19 PM
|
#8
|
|
Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 12,632
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
07-04-2019, 08:34 PM
|
#9
|
|
Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 8,718
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by detbuch
See my answer to you just before this post. Changes were made since 1778. And you didn't quote the rest of Amendment 14 section two. Which originalism would require for interpretation.
|
He chooses to ignore the facts as they don’t support his idiocy.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
PRO CHOICE REPUBLICAN
|
|
|
|
|
07-05-2019, 06:09 PM
|
#10
|
|
Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Somerset MA
Posts: 9,407
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by detbuch
See my answer to you just before this post. Changes were made since 1778. And you didn't quote the rest of Amendment 14 section two. Which originalism would require for interpretation.
|
Seem this simple questions is a yes or no answer. Have we been doing it wrong for the past 200 plus years. And trumps going to fix it?
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
|
|
|
|
|
|
07-05-2019, 08:09 PM
|
#11
|
|
Registered User
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Chasing fat girls in the dark
Posts: 961
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by detbuch
Since the census is used to allocate House seats, why should non-citizens be used to determine the number of seats? Why should that number be influenced by the number of aliens in a state?
|
Bingo! |
"We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children"
|
|
|
|
|
07-06-2019, 03:50 AM
|
#12
|
|
Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 12,632
|
Poll: Majority say the census should be able to include citizenship question
Sixty-seven percent of voters said the census should be able to ask whether people living in the U.S. are citizens, going against the recent Supreme Court decision on the matter, according to a new Harvard CAPS/Harris Poll.
The poll also found that the inclusion of the question was supported among members of both parties, with 88 percent of Republicans and 52 percent of Democrats supporting its inclusion.
Sixty-three percent of independents said they supported including the question on the census.
https://thehill.com/regulation/court...de-citizenship |
|
|
|
|
|
| Thread Tools |
|
|
| Display Modes |
Rate This Thread |
 Hybrid Mode
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:29 AM.
|
| |
