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09-07-2019, 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
As I said:
Only a malignant narcissist would be unable to admit they too cannot predict the weather and be obsessed with it for close to a week, so far, keeping the story alive.
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This seems like a fuss over nothing. So I haven't paid it any attention. Did Trump predict the weather? Or was he interpreting or regurgitating what he thought the weather folks said? Did Trump actually say that he can predict the weather better than or without the forecast of weather experts?
It seems that a great portion of our population is infected by a malignant anti-Trumpism which sadistically reacts against just about everything Trump does or says.
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09-07-2019, 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
This seems like a fuss over nothing. So I haven't paid it any attention. Did Trump predict the weather? Or was he interpreting or regurgitating what he thought the weather folks said? Did Trump actually say that he can predict the weather better than or without the forecast of weather experts?.
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As of Friday evening, Trump had posted 15 tweets and five maps about Alabama and the storm to try to prove his original tweet was correct, despite the fact that he'd been publicly rebuked by the National Weather Service.
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09-07-2019, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
As of Friday evening, Trump had posted 15 tweets and five maps about Alabama and the storm to try to prove his original tweet was correct, despite the fact that he'd been publicly rebuked by the National Weather Service.
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You focus only on one side of the barrage. Trump is constantly being bombarded by accusations and characterizations. I find no fault in him retorting back in whatever number of tweets he wishes. He may not always be right, but he often is. He was (and is) voluminously portrayed, and "publicly rebuked", as a traitor, Russian collaborator, Nazi, Fascist, homophobe, misogynist, alt-right, racist, and it has demonstrably been shown that he isn't. But if he didn't fight back, with lots and lots of tweets among other ways, he probably would have been destroyed. And it is obvious to me that the intention has been to destroy him.
So I give him kudos for defending every millimeter and ounce of personal turf that he still has. Even when he is mistaken, I understand the gravity of what is being attempted against him and the need to counter it. And I understand why you so strenuously speak in accord with those who oppose him. And why every little possibly denigrating word or move he speaks or makes must be weaponized against him when the big, important, stuff he is accused of fails.
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09-07-2019, 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
You focus only on one side of the barrage. Trump is constantly being bombarded by accusations and characterizations. I find no fault in him retorting back in whatever number of tweets he wishes. He may not always be right, but he often is. He was (and is) voluminously portrayed, and "publicly rebuked", as a traitor, Russian collaborator, Nazi, Fascist, homophobe, misogynist, alt-right, racist, and it has demonstrably been shown that he isn't. But if he didn't fight back, with lots and lots of tweets among other ways, he probably would have been destroyed. And it is obvious to me that the intention has been to destroy him.
So I give him kudos for defending every millimeter and ounce of personal turf that he still has. Even when he is mistaken, I understand the gravity of what is being attempted against him and the need to counter it. And I understand why you so strenuously speak in accord with those who oppose him. And why every little possibly denigrating word or move he speaks or makes must be weaponized against him when the big, important, stuff he is accused of fails.
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last week, cnn had the head of the psychology department of Duke university on. he said trump has killed millions more than hitler, stalin, or mao, and the host didn’t object. that’s as crazy and as antithetical to fair play as anything trump has ever done. the libs changed the rules in 2008, and after two cycles the right figured out to nominate someone quite at home in the arena of dirty fighting, and now the left acts as if they did nothing to bring this about. they portrayed mccain as a senile old racist, and romney as a heartless plutocrat who objectified women, too bad for them if someone’s better at that game than they are, you reap what you sow.
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09-07-2019, 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
last week, cnn had the head of the psychology department of Duke university on. he said trump has killed millions more than hitler, stalin, or mao,
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was his name Pete F. ?
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09-07-2019, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
You focus only on one side of the barrage. Trump is constantly being bombarded by accusations and characterizations. I find no fault in him retorting back in whatever number of tweets he wishes. He may not always be right, but he often is. He was (and is) voluminously portrayed, and "publicly rebuked", as a traitor, Russian collaborator, Nazi, Fascist, homophobe, misogynist, alt-right, racist, and it has demonstrably been shown that he isn't.
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Trump sets himself against anyone who doesn’t support him.
He consistently denigrates anyone who criticizes him in any way and demands praise that in his mind and perhaps yours is due.
His base, of which you seem to be part, has shown no growth despite the good economy.
I have seen no demonstrable evidence that he is not any of the things he has been accused of, and far more evidence that he is. Claiming that you are the least........does not make you so, but in most people’s minds, reinforces the belief that the converse is true.
60% of Americans are too smart to fall for Trump.
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09-07-2019, 07:59 AM
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How can we not be caught up in it, it's something stupid or dumb coming out of his mouth or twitter account week after week and when he gets called out on something he got totally wrong he reverts back to his childhood. Only a child caught in a lie takes out a sharpie to recreate the hurricane track to make his lie the truth.
You MR. (Detbuch) CONSTITUTION, you seem to be OK with Trump steeling money from the military to build his wall. The constitution was set up to prevent authoritarian leadership to have control over our tax payer money, yet now apparently you don't see a problem with him taking control of the purse. Where are you now when our Potus is ignoring the intent of the constitution, or is it as I've stated before; the means justify the ends and a rule bent here or there is ok?
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09-07-2019, 08:43 AM
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I see a clear pattern from our resident Trump Supporters and liberal haters
Most of their responses are canned responses as if they cant articulate a reasonable argument that is Fact base .. aka TDS, snowflake , spelling
you think Climate change is real . ( response its a hoax and it any attempts to fix will destroy the economy and our way of life happens all the time ) evidence non provided
support gun control even if you own a gun and have a license to carry ( response you want to take our guns and rights seizure ) evidence none provided
Against a wall but not against fixing the issue (response you support open borders or illegal immigration ) evidence none provided
Against police who shoot unarmed people ( response you hate the police or do as your told )
Trump changing the forecast map, lying daily Pence staying at Tump property in Ireland so on and so forth , Trump supporters oddly enough have nothing to say about theses topic .. ( other than the canned TDS or snowflakes)
they only have comments towards those who highlight their existence... they even ignoring their past paper trail of written words exposing their Hypocrisy .. some who had extensive detailed posts who now only only conduct Drive by post's others who feel 1 or 2 critical post for or against response is all it takes to show objectivity with hundreds of post in 1 direction ..
Clearly My Views of the Direction Trump is taking the USA (not talking economy) is a road to Nationalism hiding behind Patriotism...
and will be seen by the cult personalties or Trump supporters as hating America again with no evidence given
A cult of personality, or cult of the leader,[1] arises when a country's regime – or, more rarely, an individual – uses the techniques of mass media, propaganda, the big lie, spectacle, the arts, patriotism, and government-organized demonstrations and rallies to create an idealized, heroic, and worshipful image of a leader, often through unquestioning flattery and praise.
And here I thought this ^^^^^ couldn't happen in America How wrong i was
NOAA Contradicts Weather Service, Backs Trump On Hurricane Threat In Alabama (don't question the leader .. fact not one forecasting map had the hurricane map any where Alabama...
After the president's tweet, the National Weather Service, in Birmingham, Ala., responded with its own tweet, saying "Alabama will NOT see any impacts from #Dorian. We repeat, no impacts from Hurricane #Dorian will be felt across Alabama. The system will remain too far east."
they also must be trying to embarrass Trump liberal operatives have infiltrated the national weather service in Alabama .. its the only logical explanation
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09-07-2019, 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
I see a clear pattern from our resident Trump Supporters and liberal haters
Most of their responses are canned responses as if they cant articulate a reasonable argument that is Fact base .. aka TDS, snowflake , spelling
you think Climate change is real . ( response its a hoax and it any attempts to fix will destroy the economy and our way of life happens all the time ) evidence non provided
support gun control even if you own a gun and have a license to carry ( response you want to take our guns and rights seizure ) evidence none provided
Against a wall but not against fixing the issue (response you support open borders or illegal immigration ) evidence none provided
Against police who shoot unarmed people ( response you hate the police or do as your told )
Trump changing the forecast map, lying daily Pence staying at Tump property in Ireland so on and so forth , Trump supporters oddly enough have nothing to say about theses topic .. ( other than the canned TDS or snowflakes)
they only have comments towards those who highlight their existence... they even ignoring their past paper trail of written words exposing their Hypocrisy .. some who had extensive detailed posts who now only only conduct Drive by post's others who feel 1 or 2 critical post for or against response is all it takes to show objectivity with hundreds of post in 1 direction ..
Clearly My Views of the Direction Trump is taking the USA (not talking economy) is a road to Nationalism hiding behind Patriotism...
and will be seen by the cult personalties or Trump supporters as hating America again with no evidence given
A cult of personality, or cult of the leader,[1] arises when a country's regime – or, more rarely, an individual – uses the techniques of mass media, propaganda, the big lie, spectacle, the arts, patriotism, and government-organized demonstrations and rallies to create an idealized, heroic, and worshipful image of a leader, often through unquestioning flattery and praise.
And here I thought this ^^^^^ couldn't happen in America How wrong i was
NOAA Contradicts Weather Service, Backs Trump On Hurricane Threat In Alabama (don't question the leader .. fact not one forecasting map had the hurricane map any where Alabama...
After the president's tweet, the National Weather Service, in Birmingham, Ala., responded with its own tweet, saying "Alabama will NOT see any impacts from #Dorian. We repeat, no impacts from Hurricane #Dorian will be felt across Alabama. The system will remain too far east."
they also must be trying to embarrass Trump liberal operatives have infiltrated the national weather service in Alabama .. its the only logical explanation
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Curious that you only see this on the “other” side. Yet when presented with facts that contradict your opinions,you come up with a false equivalency. Human nature I guess. But some don’t see it that way....
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PRO CHOICE REPUBLICAN
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09-07-2019, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Got Stripers
How can we not be caught up in it, it's something stupid or dumb coming out of his mouth or twitter account week after week and when he gets called out on something he got totally wrong he reverts back to his childhood. Only a child caught in a lie takes out a sharpie to recreate the hurricane track to make his lie the truth.
Maybe some just find it too difficult to not get caught up in stupid stuff. I've never got caught up in Biden's constant nonsense. Maybe a sardonic chuckle or so. But never considered them relevant. My only significant opposition to him is his policies.
You MR. (Detbuch) CONSTITUTION, you seem to be OK with Trump steeling money from the military to build his wall. The constitution was set up to prevent authoritarian leadership to have control over our tax payer money, yet now apparently you don't see a problem with him taking control of the purse. Where are you now when our Potus is ignoring the intent of the constitution, or is it as I've stated before; the means justify the ends and a rule bent here or there is ok?
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He has not taken control of the purse. Congress still has that control. But, as I pointed out to you, Congress is made up of two constitutional parts, the House and the Senate. Both have to agree on spending. If the Senate supports the President against the House, then the President, constitutionally, gets his funds.
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09-08-2019, 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
He has not taken control of the purse. Congress still has that control. But, as I pointed out to you, Congress is made up of two constitutional parts, the House and the Senate. Both have to agree on spending. If the Senate supports the President against the House, then the President, constitutionally, gets his funds.
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I’m sure our forefathers didn’t want the president having the ability to call anything an emergency in order to steel money appropriated for military use. Congress using the power of the purse approved those projects and Trump is so fing desperate to get some of his fence built ahead of 2020, he feels he can overstep and steel those funds.
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09-08-2019, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Got Stripers
in order to steel money appropriated for military use. he feels he can overstep and steel those funds.
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you are precious 
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09-08-2019, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
He has not taken control of the purse. Congress still has that control. But, as I pointed out to you, Congress is made up of two constitutional parts, the House and the Senate. Both have to agree on spending. If the Senate supports the President against the House, then the President, constitutionally, gets his funds.
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This makes little sense.
Regardless it seems pretty depraved for our some of our service members families to have their children's education and safety compromised just so Trump can have a talking point.
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09-08-2019, 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
Regardless it seems pretty depraved for our some of our service members families to have their children's education and safety compromised just so Trump can have a talking point.
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This makes little sense.
fixed it 
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