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Old 11-10-2019, 10:31 AM   #1
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How foolish do you need to be to be unable to see that Floridaman attempted to bribe Ukraine for dirt on his political opponent with funding appropriated by the holders of the purse that he abused the powers given to him by the Constitution to withhold.
That he hid this extortion from Congress and the American people until he was told about the whistleblowers report.
What will his next task that Putin assigns be, NATO, Syria, Ukraine are done, is Finland or Sweden next? Not the entire countries but a little nibbling at the edges using the same MO as he did in Georgia and Ukraine.
Floridaman will say that they should talk to Putin about it as he did when he threw Zelensky to the Russian wolves.
He should go to Russia for Mayday and stay
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Old 11-10-2019, 11:06 AM   #2
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How foolish do you need to be to be unable to see that Floridaman attempted to bribe Ukraine for dirt on his political opponent with funding appropriated by the holders of the purse that he abused the powers given to him by the Constitution to withhold.
That he hid this extortion from Congress and the American people until he was told about the whistleblowers report.
What will his next task that Putin assigns be, NATO, Syria, Ukraine are done, is Finland or Sweden next? Not the entire countries but a little nibbling at the edges using the same MO as he did in Georgia and Ukraine.
Floridaman will say that they should talk to Putin about it as he did when he threw Zelensky to the Russian wolves.
He should go to Russia for Mayday and stay
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"how foolish do you need to be to be unable to see that Floridaman attempted to bribe Ukraine for dirt on his political opponent "

That would be pretty foolish. Fortunately, I know that's what Trump did. I also know that the reason why there's dirt to dig up on Biden, is because there was probably cronyism and corruption there. I also know the senate democrats also asked Ukraine to get dirt on their political opponents.

I answered your quiestion directly, and exactly as you asked it. Can you do the same? Here's my question...how unprincipled any hypocriticl do you have to be, to attack Trump for using a quid pro quo and for looking for dirt on political opponents, when at the same time you overlook democrats doing the same thing?

Have fun with that...
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Old 11-10-2019, 11:46 AM   #3
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I also know the senate democrats also asked Ukraine to get dirt on their political opponents.
Jim, for the 1000th time this isn’t even remotely true. The Dems were asking Ukraine to comply with requests from an official DOJ investigation of a man now in a federal prison.

Now it’s being reported that Ukraine shut down the cooperation right after contact with Rudy. Hmmmmmm...
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Old 11-10-2019, 12:46 PM   #4
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Jim, for the 1000th time this isn’t even remotely true. The Dems were asking Ukraine to comply with requests from an official DOJ investigation of a man now in a federal prison.

Now it’s being reported that Ukraine shut down the cooperation right after contact with Rudy. Hmmmmmm...
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"Jim, for the 1000th time this isn’t even remotely true. "

Saying it 1,000 times, doesn't make it true.

"The Dems were asking Ukraine to comply with requests from an official DOJ investigation of a man now in a federal prison."

And Trump IS the executive branch. He has no legitimate authority to inquire about crimes that US citizens might be committing in other countries? Based on what?

Maybe if we could investigate Biden, we' know he broke laws. You won't ever concede a legitimate need for an investigation of any democrat, no matter what they do. All the libs here have dismissed the Durham investigation before one sentence has been released.

By what logic, besides blind partisanship, do you always assume the reouboican is guilty and the democrat is innocent?
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Old 11-10-2019, 12:59 PM   #5
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Jim, for the 1000th time this isn’t even remotely true. The Dems were asking Ukraine to comply with requests from an official DOJ investigation of a man now in a federal prison.

Now it’s being reported that Ukraine shut down the cooperation right after contact with Rudy. Hmmmmmm...
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Spence, here's a key question, the answer to which will be very revealing.

US Attorney Durham has a pretty impressive resume. And he has changed the nature of his inquiry into the origins of the Russian probe, into a criminal inquiry.

Neither you, nor I, have the faintest clue what he has learned, what knowledge he has. So are you open to reading his findings? Or have you already concluded (somehow) that the whole thing is a politically motivated sham? You've also concluded that it's insignificant that Obama's DOJ used political opposition fodder (and didn't identify it as such) to get multiple surveillance warrants on Carter Page. You've concluded that wasn't political.

Every allegation made by the left is instantly credible and valid, every accusation mad by the right is instantly dismissed as politically motivated BS. Give us some evidence that you don't believe exactly that?
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Old 11-10-2019, 01:25 PM   #6
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Spence, here's a key question, the answer to which will be very revealing.

US Attorney Durham has a pretty impressive resume. And he has changed the nature of his inquiry into the origins of the Russian probe, into a criminal inquiry.

Neither you, nor I, have the faintest clue what he has learned, what knowledge he has. So are you open to reading his findings? Or have you already concluded (somehow) that the whole thing is a politically motivated sham? You've also concluded that it's insignificant that Obama's DOJ used political opposition fodder (and didn't identify it as such) to get multiple surveillance warrants on Carter Page. You've concluded that wasn't political.

Every allegation made by the left is instantly credible and valid, every accusation mad by the right is instantly dismissed as politically motivated BS. Give us some evidence that you don't believe exactly that?
Why was Page the subject of a FISA warrant in 2013, was that part of the carefully orchestrated plan by Obama and the deep state to bring down Floridaman.
In 2013 Page claimed to be part of the Kremlin staff, could that be something that would easily warrant further and advisable investigation if he was involved in a presidential campaign that you were investigating possible Russian interference into?
Or is interference in our elections by a foreign country acceptable to you like it is to Floridaman
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"how foolish do you need to be to be unable to see that Floridaman attempted to bribe Ukraine for dirt on his political opponent "

That would be pretty foolish. Fortunately, I know that's what Trump did. I also know that the reason why there's dirt to dig up on Biden, is because there was probably cronyism and corruption there. I also know the senate democrats also asked Ukraine to get dirt on their political opponents.

I answered your quiestion directly, and exactly as you asked it. Can you do the same? Here's my question...how unprincipled any hypocriticl do you have to be, to attack Trump for using a quid pro quo and for looking for dirt on political opponents, when at the same time you overlook democrats doing the same thing?

Have fun with that...
You’re claiming that what Biden in one instance at the direction of the administration and in public did.
And a letter written by 3 Senators about a news report that said the prosecutor was not to prosecute and was recorded in the Congressional record is the same as what Floridaman did

That the DOJ told him was false

The DOJ told him there was no predicate for the investigation of his and Hannity’s theories

That the lawyers and staff told him was wrong

that was hidden because it was wrong,

people were told not to mention

that Bolton then released the aid for and resigned over

that has gone from

Never happened
Maybe
Here’s the Memorandum of telecom
They didn’t know
Maybe they knew
They didn’t do the investigation
They got the aid
It’s all a plot to get me

I don’t see anything humorous about Floridaman’s actions

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Old 11-10-2019, 02:31 PM   #8
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You’re claiming that what Biden in one instance at the direction of the administration and in public did.
And a letter written by 3 Senators about a news report that said the prosecutor was not to prosecute and was recorded in the Congressional record is the same as what Floridaman did

That the DOJ told him was false

The DOJ told him there was no predicate for the investigation of his and Hannity’s theories

That the lawyers and staff told him was wrong

that was hidden because it was wrong,

people were told not to mention

that Bolton then released the aid for and resigned over

that has gone from

Never happened
Maybe
Here’s the Memorandum of telecom
They didn’t know
Maybe they knew
They didn’t do the investigation
They got the aid
It’s all a plot to get me

I don’t see anything humorous about Floridaman’s actions

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"You’re claiming that what Biden in one instance at the direction of the administration"

Trump doesnt need direction from the admninistration, he is the administration. Yuo guys sure are nervous about getting to the bottom of what teh Bidens did there. If they did nothing wrong, there's nohting to fear from an investigation. The fact that you all go berserk at teh mention of investigation the tactics of anyone on the left, speaks volumes.

I am very curious to see what Durham turns up.
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Old 11-10-2019, 02:52 PM   #9
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You know, this is the 2nd time I checked into this forum. You are all #^&#^&#^&#^&ED UP. It's all mental masturbation. Just go to work or fish.

I cut trees everyday. I am in harms way all the time. I have no time for this useless rhetoric. This is just crazy #^&#^&#^&#^&. You are not going to change anything or am I missing the point. Is this just all for fun????

No boat, back in the suds.
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Old 11-10-2019, 04:53 PM   #10
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You know, this is the 2nd time I checked into this forum. You are all #^&#^&#^&#^&ED UP. It's all mental masturbation. Just go to work or fish.

I cut trees everyday. I am in harms way all the time. I have no time for this useless rhetoric. This is just crazy #^&#^&#^&#^&. You are not going to change anything or am I missing the point. Is this just all for fun????
You should never come here Paul, it’s just fu*ked up lately, there are never calm intelligent debates, it’s slid to name calling and insults. Good day on the links, no politics and no crazy sh*t.
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You are right my friend. I will not return. Headed to SC in about 2 weeks and then I'll golf and fish till April. Adios

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Old 11-10-2019, 06:35 PM   #12
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I am very curious to see what Durham turns up.
Well the IG turned his report over to Barr and that ended his involvement, much like Mueller turned his over and Barr produced his false synopsis.
We will see what happens with what Trump has “his” AG investigating and if Durham will speak.
We should hope that the FBI and CIA survive it and are still willing to investigate terrorism, political malfeasance and crime.
I doubt that any whistleblowers of any issue will come forth for a while, that’s not a good thing.
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