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01-16-2020, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND
I think smoking gun is a bit much. He has problems as a credible witness, and a lot will come down to how much can be verified.
It certainly begs the question; Rudy claims in asking for the meeting with Zelinsky, that the request was with the consent and knowledge of POTUS. Plus there is a tangled web if Nunes was meeting with this guy as claimed. Nunes is trying to deflect and pull back, which is not a good look for him.
So was Trump lying when he said he didn't know what Rudy was doing in Ukraine or was Rudy lying about it then?
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i’m am very sad to see how far Rudy has fallen. in the wake of 09/11, we were all in awe of the way he dealt with it all. he’s been reduced to a caricature of what he was.
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01-16-2020, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
i’m am very sad to see how far Rudy has fallen. in the wake of 09/11, we were all in awe of the way he dealt with it all. he’s been reduced to a caricature of what he was.
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And the sadder part, is that Trump had to know Rudy was involved with these guys, and he still chose to keep him as his personal attorney. |
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"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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01-17-2020, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND
I think smoking gun is a bit much. He has problems as a credible witness, and a lot will come down to how much can be verified.
It certainly begs the question; Rudy claims in asking for the meeting with Zelinsky, that the request was with the consent and knowledge of POTUS.
So was Trump lying when he said he didn't know what Rudy was doing in Ukraine or was Rudy lying about it then?
Plus there is a tangled web if Nunes was meeting with this guy as claimed. Nunes is trying to deflect and pull back, which is not a good look for him.
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Bryan, I'll ask you because you're very rational...how many times do you listen to the same exact people say "we've got him THIS time", before you just stop listening? |
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01-17-2020, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
Bryan, I'll ask you because you're very rational...how many times do you listen to the same exact people say "we've got him THIS time", before you just stop listening?
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If Moscow Mitch ever allowed witnesses and documents, you might get real close to sealing the deal. Personally, I'd be ok if the senate doesn't remove him from office, provided they look at all the facts, bring in all the witnesses that have first hand knowledge and get all the applicable documents on the record; at least then it's an outcome the public can deal with at the polls. |
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01-17-2020, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Got Stripers
If Moscow Mitch ever allowed witnesses and documents, you might get real close to sealing the deal. Personally, I'd be ok if the senate doesn't remove him from office, provided they look at all the facts, bring in all the witnesses that have first hand knowledge and get all the applicable documents on the record; at least then it's an outcome the public can deal with at the polls.
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The house is charged with making the case.
But I'm fine with the democrats calling Bolton, and the Republicans calling Hunter Biden. Let's investigate, I have no issue with that. |
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01-18-2020, 05:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
The house is charged with making the case.
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And now we see that the ranking Republican member of the House Intel committee looks to have been a co-conspirator in what they were investigating.
Any issue with that Jim? |
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01-18-2020, 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
Bryan, I'll ask you because you're very rational...how many times do you listen to the same exact people say "we've got him THIS time", before you just stop listening?
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The same people? I scan three different news sites most mornings. One is WSJ, so I try to not pigeon hole into one side. But don't confuse 'they didn't get him' with 'Trump did nothing wrong'.....
On this, I listened to this straight from Parnas' mouth.
As I said, it all needs to be verified/corroborated but based on Trump's history of lying about relationships (he can downplay that he was with him all the time, but it sure looks like he knows him) and Rudy's sketchy activities in Ukraine and elsewhere none of it is farfetched.
If nothing was below board, a lot of this should be easily cleared up with all of the folks with key info (Bolton, OMB personnel etc) are allowed to testify.
As Spence reiterated what I said earlier, it is pretty concerning if Parnas really was meeting with Nunes, given his role on impeachment. The timing of this meetings, if they occurred, is now very interesting.... That should be easily verifiable with phone records.
Nunes is trying to spin this, but if you are in his position on the impeachment team, I would have to ask how many random people, which Nunes is basically saying Parnas was, would be calling on his private cell.
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Bryan
Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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01-16-2020, 01:41 PM
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i see that Nancy is so sorry and solemn, that she had commemorative pens made just for the occasion of signing the articles, engraved with her name, handed out to friends. Poor thing is so sad about all this.
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01-16-2020, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
i see that Nancy is so sorry and solemn, that she had commemorative pens made just for the occasion of signing the articles, engraved with her name, handed out to friends. Poor thing is so sad about all this.
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Meanwhile, you were bending over Trump’s ass and declaring it smelled like honeysuckle and rainbows. |
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01-16-2020, 02:39 PM
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01-16-2020, 03:05 PM
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Pete, your desperation is showing. Loud and clear.
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01-16-2020, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
Pete, your desperation is showing. Loud and clear.
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He’s bitterly clinging
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01-16-2020, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by scottw
He’s bitterly clinging
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they’re absolutely terrified at the thought of 4 more years.
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01-16-2020, 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
The GOP senators are absolutely terrified at the thought of witnesses, forcing them to deny all the facts and show their home constituents they really don’t care about the laws or the constitution.
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All your deep thoughts, if you are capable of them. |
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01-16-2020, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Got Stripers
All your deep thoughts, if you are capable of them.
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Id put thoughts up against those of any of the snowflakes here, any day of the week. You react like Pavlovian dogs every time someone says anything negative about him.
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01-16-2020, 03:12 PM
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Pete, your desperation is showing. Loud and clear. if you actually believes what you claim to believe, you’d just say so.
The fact that you claim everyone who doesn’t hate him as rabidly as you do is a trumplican, shows how irrational and scared to death you are.
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01-16-2020, 03:18 PM
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Must be time for a caravan, things are getting hot in Floridaman's world
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Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
Lets Go Darwin
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01-16-2020, 04:52 PM
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He is a vile, dangerous and despicable man, but I react due to his policies on the environment, his mishandling of foreign affairs, his isolationist views on how America should move forward, my reactions wouldn’t be different if someone else was in there governing the same, so no Jim it’s not about hate. Hate and fear is what his party is about, my father would be appalled on seeing what his Republican Party had evolved into.
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01-16-2020, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Got Stripers
He is a vile, dangerous and despicable man, but I react due to his policies on the environment, his mishandling of foreign affairs, his isolationist views on how America should move forward, my reactions wouldn’t be different if someone else was in there governing the same, so no Jim it’s not about hate. Hate and fear is what his party is about, my father would be appalled on seeing what his Republican Party had evolved into.
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01-16-2020, 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Got Stripers
He is a vile, dangerous and despicable man, but I react due to his policies on the environment, his mishandling of foreign affairs, his isolationist views on how America should move forward, my reactions wouldn’t be different if someone else was in there governing the same, so no Jim it’s not about hate. Hate and fear is what his party is about, my father would be appalled on seeing what his Republican Party had evolved into.
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Do you think your father would be proud to see you still polishing Obama’s ball bag?
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PRO CHOICE REPUBLICAN
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01-17-2020, 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles
Do you think your father would be proud to see you still polishing Obama’s ball bag?
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Where have you seen Bob ballwash Obama? Clearly we see you ballwash Trump daily, but GS?
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"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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01-16-2020, 05:04 PM
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If a congressman can wear sneakers to an impeachment. Trump should wear golf shoes to the state of the union
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01-16-2020, 05:19 PM
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If a congressman can wear sneakers to an impeachment. Trump should wear golf shoes to the state of the union
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He has played more golf than any other President.
After saying he wouldn't have time.
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Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
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Lets Go Darwin
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01-16-2020, 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
He has played more golf than any other President.
After saying he wouldn't have time.
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probably surprised even himself at how effective he can be as President and still find leisure time |
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01-16-2020, 06:23 PM
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golfing, like the debt, is an issue on which everyone flip flops depending on the party of the sitting president. I assume he can do his job anywhere. the only time i cared when obama did it, if i remember correctly, was golfing on the day that an american citizen was murdered by terrorists, optics weren’t great.
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01-16-2020, 07:28 PM
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Ooooh is that the best insult you have, was it a New Years resolution to be less hostile on this forum.
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01-16-2020, 08:24 PM
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Ooooh is that the best insult you have, was it a New Years resolution to be less hostile on this forum.
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No, same old exercise more bs.
Can you answer my question now?
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01-17-2020, 07:00 AM
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Why is Dangles so obsessed with the twig and berries?
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01-17-2020, 07:09 AM
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Why is Dangles so obsessed with the twig and berries?
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I wonder how you speak while I hold you by the throat.
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01-17-2020, 07:54 AM
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I wonder how you speak while I hold you by the throat.
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Quit with the fantasies you’re creeping everyone out #bigbearcd
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