New rules

[piemma]

Game fish status or a moratorium. Everything else is a band aid and when you pull a band aid off a cut they just bleed and get infected. That's exactly what will happen with all the current offering. JMO

[tlapinski]

Originally Posted by piemma

Game fish status

I am not trying to fight or say that I am in any way for or against it, but I haven't been able to figure out how gamefish status alone is the saving grace when 90% of annual harvest is attributed to the recreational sector. I see this fix thrown around a lot, but unless I am missing something the math simply doesn't add up.

[bart]

Originally Posted by tlapinski

I am not trying to fight or say that I am in any way for or against it, but I haven't been able to figure out how gamefish status alone is the saving grace when 90% of annual harvest is attributed to the recreational sector. I see this fix thrown around a lot, but unless I am missing something the math simply doesn't add up.

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[Clammer]

toby , at the workshop it looked like a charterboat setup … we were told that we had to be in line with NY & cONN & was going to be one of 3 options ..& they were all 3o,s to 40 no options /chance of28 -35 .
then something happened going to the store ,,,,,,, everyone /other state went 28-35 " so we has the 3 options that were posted above ……………………...It basically was the rec & tackle shops going for 28 to 35 & a room full on charter boats saying the world will end if they don,t get the 30-40 ………………………………. which would put every fisherman from the rest of the world that wants a fish bigger then 35 crashing RI /leaving a pile of floaters & if DEM would enforce the another pile of violations ………
not much on ri commercial . we had worked it out at the workshop. it was a 3 way choice on less day s & less or status quo on fish ,,,,,,,,,,,, we settled for 4. day 5 fish with 3 days off ……..its either going to be F,S,S or T,F,S

the rest both commercial were kinda as expected . one rec fisherman asked why they can,t move up the sea bass dates .to earlier in June so they have a chance at them in the bay / which I 100% agree . but that not going to happen …………… pretty much everything else was as expected but rec & commercial ….if I missed anything / please chime in > you see the e-mail above ..voice your option ><> its pretty much common sense .but you have a [for hire ]group that they plead / yet they have exceptions for every species except stripers …………… they want their own rules ……… but also comm rules ….because a large majority of the have commercial licenses ><>< I could see this over [woman] but fish

no matter what changes that are made .the fish are in trouble ………………….. modification can keep up with realty ………………………………………. there are more & more people fishing , newer & better fishing gear & elctronics , F/F GPS ect &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& there never will be enough fish ………………….. are is there really global warming

[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by tlapinski

I am not trying to fight or say that I am in any way for or against it, but I haven't been able to figure out how gamefish status alone is the saving grace when 90% of annual harvest is attributed to the recreational sector. I see this fix thrown around a lot, but unless I am missing something the math simply doesn't add up.

If game fish status prevents anything other than an illegal harvest, doesn't that in and of itself help protect the breeders and also narrow the focus of enforcement? All you need to do is look at the success FL has had and I can't see a negative to game fish status, other than the commercials who probably can't make a living off stripers at this point anyway.

[tlapinski]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

If game fish status prevents anything other than an illegal harvest, doesn't that in and of itself help protect the breeders and also narrow the focus of enforcement? All you need to do is look at the success FL has had and I can't see a negative to game fish status, other than the commercials who probably can't make a living off stripers at this point anyway.

Again, not totally opposed just still not seeing the math here. So you end commercial (which, by the way, I have never been a part of) then you add a full 10% more fish back into the sea. Sure that's great, but are we just 10% off of having an ocean filled with bass? No, not in the least. Keep in mind that poaching is not commercial and it is not recreational as it's not accounted for in any way, shape or form as the ASMFC sates they have no way to calculate it.

As for the Florida comparison, it's like comparing apples to pineapples; sure they're both fruit (or maybe vegetables, I'm not sure what a pineapple really is )and both have the word apple in them, but how they grow, reproduce, are harvested and so on is very different.

[wdmso]

Do what ever is needed to protect the bass but just catch limits wont work alone. bass food sources like pogies and herring and mackerel also need attention
And climate change

They all have small effects on stocks , but combined are a huge threat

And the current Administration actions of interfering in sentencing off a felon and removing regulations just for mythical short term economic gains is also a real danger . To fish stocks