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Old 03-17-2020, 02:16 PM   #1
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Trumps tax cuts were, in my opinion, fairly criticized for giving too much to corporations, not enough to people. The administration is saying that "millionaires", however that's defined, won't be getting any money.

So why isn't this a good thing, to put money directly in the pockets of individuals? Many of whom work in the service sector, and could be missing paychecks? I'm going to be genuinely interested to see how Trump haters attempt to spin this.

When Trump gives money to corporations, the haters say it's bad because it should go to people. When Trump gives money directly to people, somehow that's also bad. Whatever he does, NO MATTER WHAT, it can't be a good thing.

Bush also sent checks to people at one point. Obama didn't. Now Trump will. Funny how the party label plays out there...

Red Cross says blood supplies are very low. We're better than that, give blood.
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Old 03-18-2020, 08:30 AM   #2
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Trumps tax cuts were, in my opinion, fairly criticized for giving too much to corporations, not enough to people. The administration is saying that "millionaires", however that's defined, won't be getting any money.

So why isn't this a good thing, to put money directly in the pockets of individuals? Many of whom work in the service sector, and could be missing paychecks? I'm going to be genuinely interested to see how Trump haters attempt to spin this.

When Trump gives money to corporations, the haters say it's bad because it should go to people. When Trump gives money directly to people, somehow that's also bad. Whatever he does, NO MATTER WHAT, it can't be a good thing.

Bush also sent checks to people at one point. Obama didn't. Now Trump will. Funny how the party label plays out there...

Red Cross says blood supplies are very low. We're better than that, give blood.

Funny what was signed by Bush was labeled as obama didn't. Yet Trump and Republicans once again have opened their mouths against such ideas


TRUMPS own party has put him in this damned if he does and position

Ps what power do you think the House has seeing Mitch brings nothing to the floor execpt abortion bills that haven't passed in 3 years before elections

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Old 03-18-2020, 08:42 AM   #3
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Funny what was signed by Bush was labeled as obama didn't. Yet Trump and Republicans once again have opened their mouths against such ideas


TRUMPS own party has put him in this damned if he does and position

Ps what power do you think the House has seeing Mitch brings nothing to the floor execpt abortion bills that haven't passed in 3 years before elections
pure jibberish, can’t understand what you’re saying, but i know that somehow you’re saying everything is the republicans fault.

Bush sent checks directly to people. Soon Trump will too. Obama didn’t.

Try making that wrong.
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Old 03-18-2020, 08:49 AM   #4
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Trumps tax cuts were, in my opinion, fairly criticized for giving too much to corporations, not enough to people. The administration is saying that "millionaires", however that's defined, won't be getting any money.

So why isn't this a good thing, to put money directly in the pockets of individuals? Many of whom work in the service sector, and could be missing paychecks? I'm going to be genuinely interested to see how Trump haters attempt to spin this.

When Trump gives money to corporations, the haters say it's bad because it should go to people. When Trump gives money directly to people, somehow that's also bad. Whatever he does, NO MATTER WHAT, it can't be a good thing.

Bush also sent checks to people at one point. Obama didn't. Now Trump will. Funny how the party label plays out there...

Red Cross says blood supplies are very low. We're better than that, give blood.
It seems like the financial aid package has broad support across both parties. Trump seems to have been left out of the neg. It was Pelosi and Munchen. Checks seem like a good idea with a cap of income who could receive the checks (200K?).

Unempl. claims are way up - like a factor of 10x. I feel bad but I don't have any sympathy for the airlines. They have gouged us at every turn.

Let's now forget the Obama aid package was constantly changed to address Rep. concerns and then I don't believe it got any Rep. votes.
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Old 03-18-2020, 09:40 AM   #5
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It seems like the financial aid package has broad support across both parties. Trump seems to have been left out of the neg. It was Pelosi and Munchen. Checks seem like a good idea with a cap of income who could receive the checks (200K?).

Unempl. claims are way up - like a factor of 10x. I feel bad but I don't have any sympathy for the airlines. They have gouged us at every turn.

Let's now forget the Obama aid package was constantly changed to address Rep. concerns and then I don't believe it got any Rep. votes.
agreed all around, nice to see both sides do something quickly to help.

do airlines make a ton of money?

i honestly don’t k ow anyone who benefitted from the obama stimulus. he did other things that helped, the stimulus to target shovel ready projects, was kind of a flop. even obama
later joked that the project weren’t as shovel ready as he thought. he was able to chuckle as he said this, because he knew no one would
criticize him for wasting almost a trillion.
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It's funny how conservatives fight for free markets and less government until there's a crisis.


But Bush sent check Obama didn't... you really dont understand my question
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It's funny how conservatives fight for free markets and less government until there's a crisis.


But Bush sent check Obama didn't... you really dont understand my question
Right! We want the government, when at all possible and prudent, to leave us the hell alone. But we don't want zero government.

Furthermore, this is less government, not more. The government is returning to us, a small portion of what we gave them. Instead of the government spending that money on our behalf, WE get to spend it how we see fit.

You're so desperate to use this as a club against republicans, that you can't see the obvious.

This isn't an entitlement program going to people who in some cases, are choosing not to work. This is relief for taxpayers as well, in a time of short-term crisis.
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