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Old 04-17-2020, 07:33 PM   #11
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I don't know what the IC told him. I don't know what the IC of the rest of the world told their governments.
We have the most comprehensive and complete IC community in the world, the WHO has none. We also failed to appoint our representative to the WHO and now Trump* wants to blame them for failing to tell us what they did tell us when they knew and when they knew even though they did.

China loosed this pandemic on the rest of the world and there is no way that the CCP didn't know that is exactly what they were doing.
That is conjecture on your part, just because Pompeo and Trump are pushing that theory doesn't make it true.

You can go on and on with your notion that it's Trump's fault that it was not stopped at our doorstep, or not stopped soon enough, and posting your selected timelines, but that is all, as usual, a compilation of factoids meant to inspire your preferred conjecture, opinion and accusation.

All you need to do is look at Trump*s public statements and the warnings put forth both within and from outside his administration and you can see what he failed to do.

National Security is his F'n Job and if you want to claim it is not then just what rationale do you use for his declaration of an emergency to build a wall.

What is Trump*s fault is delaying action, downplaying the danger, and not following the procedure that previous presidents both R and D for multiple administrations had set up to make sure that the responsibilities in case of a pandemic had already been assigned and we would have the best chance to control it.
"Nobody knew" is Bull.... all the records and documents exist.


I don't know if it's also supposed to be Trump's fault that so much of the rest of the world was also not able to do what you think Trump was supposed to do, or if they all were also in your eyes just as negligent.

Pretty obvious if you look at transaction records that governments of developed governments throughout the world were buying up PPE starting in January. What was the Trump* maladministration doing? Rallies and Golf

I don't have confidence that Trump can convince the CCP to play fair trade with us. I think he is right to try much of what he is doing in that respect. But I doubt China will voluntarily give up its one way advantage and become a fair trading partner with the rest of the world. If that were to happen, it would be the beginning of the end of the CCP. And I don't think the party members are willing to commit that suicide--possibly literally as well as figuratively. Same goes for North Korea.

But if there is any hope of such a change, it won't be enhanced by berating China for its malfeasance re this virus. Trump is trapping himself on that tightwire he has to walk while simultaneously negotiating and blaming. I don't expect you to accede to nor understand that.

But, if anything is effective in changing our economic relation with China, the tariffs would be so. It is about the only way, other than outright war, to reverse what China economically has done to the U.S.

And if anything is effective in stopping China from doing what it has done with this virus, it would be the world "community" putting the blame for the spread of it on the country that most effectively could have stopped it at its doorstep.
What Trump* has done for foreign relations is at a minimum hurt our alliances, let China, Russia and other totalitarian governments gain ground with countries around the world and failed to control anything that he claims to have wanted to.
There are reasons our enemies and allies laugh at him and call him out as the whining baby that he is.
You really think that the countries who have had their administrations bullied and denigrated by Trump and received help from China are going to join him in attacking China?
He may have recognized that there are things that should change in our relationship with the rest of the world but is clueless on how to accomplish that within the framework of the Constitution. If he had put together a competent team he may have had a chance, but all he has ever allowed is people who praise him, take blame for his failures or leave.
His administration is comprised of the largest compilation of incompetent buttkissers ever assembled in the WH.
We are not in a Reality TV series.

In the past month Trump has gone from "anyone who wants a test can have one" to "The States have to step up their TESTING!"
What a Leader, perhaps the Governors should also just pick up their toys and say it's the Mayor's problem, I'm not going to play anymore.
He's done his typical bankruptcy game, that he has done many times before but this time instead of creditors and contractors he has left the American people holding the bag for his failure as a leader.
Now he has a cute Powerpoint by Jared with no defined plan on how the economy is going to come back to life. No testing, it's not his problem. No tracking or control, it's not his problem. Good luck Governors, I'm done.
He'll go back to building his wall for $5000+ a linear foot because those Central Americans will bankrupt us.

Last edited by Pete F.; 04-17-2020 at 08:26 PM..

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